Bitten by the Mac bug!

[Robert]

Originally Posted by DRZ

Until other people turned the tone of the thread on its head I think that I was being pretty kind to OSX, it was only when responding to points that other people made that things nose-dived.

Yeah, I do think that some Apple products aren't as good as the competition and yes, you can get better but thats not being agressive, derisory or anything like that, I just can't understand the following they have - looking at it objectively for a moment, why would anyone want an iPhone when it lacks 'basic' features and costs the earth for it?! The iPod has a horrendously flawed output stage which is audible (to me, for the music I listen to) despite an innovative control system. I turn on my MP3 player, hit play, put it in my pocket and forget about it - so the UI isn't all that.

The iPod Touch is kind of a hybrid device and the stuff it does makes it a fantastic device, but thats because its more than an MP3 player despite the iPod tag (imo).

Oh and for the love of god, I do not have a U in my handle.

Hang on...I'll get my oscilloscope out and try to tell the difference between players.

As has been said - the Ipod is good. It plays everything I throw at it, it lasts ages and has good audio quality.

I'm not about to go testing frequency responses and such like.

[divine]

Originally Posted by DRZ

The iPhone needs that something to make up for its pitfalls, the iTouch does almost everything a good PDA phone can do, if the two merged at a sane price then it would be attractive...

Perhaps that something will come in the next software update from the SDK, along with all the Exchange compatibility things.

[Dr. Z]

Originally Posted by Robert

Hang on...I'll get my oscilloscope out and try to tell the difference between players.

As has been said - the Ipod is good. It plays everything I throw at it, it lasts ages and has good audio quality.

I'm not about to go testing frequency responses and such like.

Use your ears, they are better than any oscilloscope. The difference, to me at least (and many others) is clear as day.

Its not about the numbers (although they are there to be tested if you want to be that anal) but about the music. Music sounds noticeably better to me on my iAudio X5 and so thats the better player for me. If you prefer to have a shiny wheel interface or you prefer a glossy finish on the front then thats cool with me, whatever makes you happy

FWIW your iPod doesn't play anywhere near the full gamut of available audio formats either, but thats not really the point

[Blackstar]

My favourite apple moment...
Picture the scene, i'm in the car with Petemc and Leo.
Them talking - "....Everyone has an Ipod...."
Me - "I don't"

[Mark]

Awww.

And yeah, DRZ is right. iPods won't play FLAC, OGG, WAV, or even, heaven forbid, WMA, but as he so aptly put it, that isn't the point.

I just wish the battery in my X5 wasn't failing on me less than a year after purchase.

[divine]

Originally Posted by Mark

And yeah, DRZ is right. iPods won't play FLAC, OGG, WAV, or even, heaven forbid, WMA, but as he so aptly put it, that isn't the point.

They will play WAV

[Mark]

Damn. Foiled again. What on earth was Steve Jobs thinking?

[petemc]

Originally Posted by DRZ

Until other people turned the tone of the thread on its head I think that I was being pretty kind to OSX, it was only when responding to points that other people made that things nose-dived.

From what I saw the thread was doing fine till you dropped by to ask (practically bait) the "fanboys" here why you can't buy OSX. Then it got silly. IMHO the Mac users here aren't the hardcore fanboys you hate so don't treat us like it. Just as you hate the hardcore fanboys I also hate those people who label Mac users as fashion whores. I take offense at being told that all my decisions are simply because someone on the front of GQ has a Mac. I bought an old G3 to try OSX to see if I liked it. Then I bought a Mac Mini and tried using it as my daily machine. After about a year or two I was confident and happy enough with OSX that I bought a Macbook Pro and haven't looked back. I've also pointed out many times in this thread that my Mac isn't any faster or better than a normal PC I just prefer it. Originally I never saw a need for an iPod either, but now really enjoy owning one. I don't make quick decisions, I make informed ones that work for me. So you'll forgive me for getting annoyed when I see the same old cliches and stereotypes being thrown around yet another Mac thread where I'm trying to post my honest views on the subject.

[Dr. Z]

I didn't drop by, I was already significantly involved in the thread.

A genuine question too, and I stand by the point I made. Apple need to release it as a product in its own right, after all their platform is no longer different so thats no excuse Only then can OSX users judge others for their use of an alternative OS

I have only posted my opinions and judgements of the available tech based on my values and never said otherwise.

[petemc]

Yes I know. You opened with the classic Mac = fashion accessory cliche I don't see why they need to release osx to everyone. If anything MS need to make IE availabe on osx and nix more than apple need to release osx. what will it prove? Linux is free and yet doesn't have a giant % of the desktop market. Before you say its not a desktop os its being used that way by plenty I'm sure. I know a few osx users jumped to ubuntu. My old uni considered using Linux as the main desktop os back in 1999. 9 years on and its still not ready as a desktop os?