Mark Speight found dead

Del Lardo · 13-04-2008, 21:00

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7345486.stm

Very sad state of affairs for both of the deceased and their familys.

I'm interested to hear peoples reactions on this forums but already on other forums I've been on people have been blaming drugs for both their deaths or labeling them as "druggy scum" who don't deserve our sympathy.

I think there has been far too much focus on the use of cocaine in this case rather than the abuse of cocains, alcohol and sleeping pills. 2 out of the 3 drugs that killed Natasha Collins are legal and and depressives. Personally I know what's more likely to make me fall asleep, a bag full of coke or vodka and sleeping pills.

Still Vodka and sleeping pills are legal and therefore socially acceptable. I hope that one good thing can come from this dreadful situation and that's a well thought out and informed debate on the UKs drugs policy.

Pumpkinstew · 13-04-2008, 21:05

I was in Paddington Station tuesday afternoon.

That's a slightly creepy feeling.

BBx · 13-04-2008, 21:06

:/

OMG

BB x

Lomster · 13-04-2008, 21:07

I liked SMARTeenies.

RIP Big Picture - Small Picture man.

PvtPyle · 13-04-2008, 23:27

I think anyone who rolls out the "druggy scum" argument is simply ill-informed on the subject. Taking cocaine and sleeping pills whilst drinking vodka is not something you do socially, its not a bit of fun. Clearly both of them had some fairly serious issues that they were using drugs to escape and or deal with. Other people deal with emotional issues by not eating correctly, and eventually they will develop an eating disorder. Yet if someone who was anorexic killed themselves at Paddington Station, would the same "Drugs are bad mmmkay" lobby criticise them for being "non-eaty scum"? I suspect not.

The whole case is very tragic. It would be interesting to know, and I doubt we ever will, if Speight was tipped over the edge because he was originally brought in as a suspect in the death of his girlfriend. Or, would her sudden departure have had the same effect anyways?

It is a sad story, no more or less sad than the nameless non-celeb people who die every year from drug and alcohol overdoses, regardless of whether the drug in question is legal or otherwise.

Jonny69 · 14-04-2008, 09:41

I'm really upset by this story, it is tragic and yes drugs were involved but as has already been mentioned they must have had deeper problems than is visible on the surface. Another story like just this one that didn't get discussed very well on OcUK was the WWF wrestler Chris Benoit who murdered his family followed by himself. I think people are too quick to jump to conclusions and not look below the surface.

PvtPyle · 14-04-2008, 09:50

The Chris Benoit thing was very dark. Was that motivated by drug abuse as well?

Tak · 14-04-2008, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by PvtPyle

The Chris Benoit thing was very dark. Was that motivated by drug abuse as well?

I think it was suggested it was related to steroid induced paranoia or something similar.

Snuggle Ferret · 14-04-2008, 10:14

I was really sad to hear about Mark S dying. I think the trauma of losing his girlfriend, being arrested for it (but being exonerated fully) and having mental and possibly drug issues just pushed him too far.

So sad

Will · 14-04-2008, 10:19

I hadn't even heard of his other half, and didn't know who Mark was until I saw a pic on the website. I hadn't really been in touch with any of this

I don't follow celebrity news that closesly, however this sort of story is very very sadenning - obviously he felt his life was torn apart and had no strength left in him to keep going. It's such a waste and such a shame.

I know some people here can relate to that feeling - I've been there myself and thankfully nothing serious happened - what a sad horrid world we live in

13-04-2008, 21:00	#1
Del Lardo Absinthe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 2,539	Mark Speight found dead http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7345486.stm Very sad state of affairs for both of the deceased and their familys. I'm interested to hear peoples reactions on this forums but already on other forums I've been on people have been blaming drugs for both their deaths or labeling them as "druggy scum" who don't deserve our sympathy. I think there has been far too much focus on the use of cocaine in this case rather than the abuse of cocains, alcohol and sleeping pills. 2 out of the 3 drugs that killed Natasha Collins are legal and and depressives. Personally I know what's more likely to make me fall asleep, a bag full of coke or vodka and sleeping pills. Still Vodka and sleeping pills are legal and therefore socially acceptable. I hope that one good thing can come from this dreadful situation and that's a well thought out and informed debate on the UKs drugs policy.

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Pumpkinstew Absinthe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mostly Oxford, Sometimes Bristol Posts: 1,156	I was in Paddington Station tuesday afternoon. That's a slightly creepy feeling. __________________ Get old, or die tryin' PSTEWREVIEWS - Chunks of Meaty Reviews, Mixed with Your Five a Day of News, Comment and Opinion, Floating in a Broth of Suspect Grammar and Seasoned Liberally with Mixed Metaphor. Tasty.

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Jonny69 Noob Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Socialist Republik of Kent Posts: 5,032	I'm really upset by this story, it is tragic and yes drugs were involved but as has already been mentioned they must have had deeper problems than is visible on the surface. Another story like just this one that didn't get discussed very well on OcUK was the WWF wrestler Chris Benoit who murdered his family followed by himself. I think people are too quick to jump to conclusions and not look below the surface. __________________

14-04-2008, 10:14	#9
Snuggle Ferret Mellow Birds Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gosport Posts: 367	I was really sad to hear about Mark S dying. I think the trauma of losing his girlfriend, being arrested for it (but being exonerated fully) and having mental and possibly drug issues just pushed him too far. So sad __________________ ]

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13-04-2008, 23:27	#5
PvtPyle Sofa Boy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wield of the Shire Posts: 701	I think anyone who rolls out the "druggy scum" argument is simply ill-informed on the subject. Taking cocaine and sleeping pills whilst drinking vodka is not something you do socially, its not a bit of fun. Clearly both of them had some fairly serious issues that they were using drugs to escape and or deal with. Other people deal with emotional issues by not eating correctly, and eventually they will develop an eating disorder. Yet if someone who was anorexic killed themselves at Paddington Station, would the same "Drugs are bad mmmkay" lobby criticise them for being "non-eaty scum"? I suspect not. The whole case is very tragic. It would be interesting to know, and I doubt we ever will, if Speight was tipped over the edge because he was originally brought in as a suspect in the death of his girlfriend. Or, would her sudden departure have had the same effect anyways? It is a sad story, no more or less sad than the nameless non-celeb people who die every year from drug and alcohol overdoses, regardless of whether the drug in question is legal or otherwise.

14-04-2008, 09:50	#7
PvtPyle Sofa Boy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wield of the Shire Posts: 701	The Chris Benoit thing was very dark. Was that motivated by drug abuse as well?

14-04-2008, 10:19	#10
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	I hadn't even heard of his other half, and didn't know who Mark was until I saw a pic on the website. I hadn't really been in touch with any of this I don't follow celebrity news that closesly, however this sort of story is very very sadenning - obviously he felt his life was torn apart and had no strength left in him to keep going. It's such a waste and such a shame. I know some people here can relate to that feeling - I've been there myself and thankfully nothing serious happened - what a sad horrid world we live in __________________ *No No!*