As a firm believer in fate, I cant help but wonder… - Page 3

BBx · 30-06-2008, 15:48

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Originally Posted by Pheebs

Sometimes I do the whole "what if" thing though! "What if I did stay with the police", "What if I did take that flight" etc. Tis interesting but fruitless! I prefer to think of what I can do now

Was talking about you at the weekend and Shattered, but I didn't lead the conversation, my friend who I was visiting did and they wondered if you ended up getting in the police.

That was a weird moment - was like I knew a celebratory!

lol

As you were.

What was your Doppelganger like - wasn't she hideously awful?

BB x

Pheebs · 30-06-2008, 15:52

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Originally Posted by BBelle

Was talking about you at the weekend and Shattered, but I didn't lead the conversation, my friend who I was visiting did and they wondered if you ended up getting in the police.

That was a weird moment - was like I knew a celebratory!

lol

As you were.

What was your Doppelganger like - wasn't she hideously awful?

BB x

Hahaha! An Ex-Z list celebratory!

She's lovely and she surfs!

What makes it weirder though is she lives in Truro (where Picky is from) and is dating my friend who lives in Poole (where I am from/used to live!)

Bit backwards really

BBx · 30-06-2008, 15:53

WEirdness... need pics!

BB x

Belmit · 30-06-2008, 15:55

Somewhere two possible universes have crossed and now there's a Phickers and Peebs infiltrating our reality.

Chuckles · 30-06-2008, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Matblack

'Life is like a game of cards. The hand you are dealt is determinism; the way you play it is free will'. - Nehru

It's a nice soundbite, but I don't believe it to be true.

The concept of Free Will is based on a metaphystical liberal ideal. If you believe your fate is determined, you by defination cannot believe in the notion of free will as you are implying implicitly that your choices are irrelevent. Whether you believe in some fundemental foundation of determinism (as I it would seem the quote implies), or you believe in the concept as a whole doesn't matter. You either accept the notion of free will or not.

In addition, if you believe in the concept of determinism by your own admission, you have made an irrational decision. Think about it - The concept of determinism means that the choices you make are to an extent meaningless because you do not truely possess Free Will. Accepting that is the case, they you can't possibly have chosen to believe in the concept to any form of rational criticique - Catch 22

Matblack · 30-06-2008, 16:20

I think there is some confusion here between determinism and pre-determinism [predestination]

MB

Chuckles · 30-06-2008, 16:25

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Originally Posted by Matblack

I think there is some confussion between determinism and pre determinism

MB

Really? I thought the difference was that pre-determinism was pretty much the same but your choices were determined by "God"

Will · 30-06-2008, 16:40

I don't believe in fate as I have a mind that's far too pragmatic for that. However I believe in the science behind quantum mechanics and parallel time lines, after all time is just a dimension, and within time it is split into it's own dimension. There are in fact 10 dimensions of time if you believe the theories. However I digress... so I believe that there always are an infinite amount of possibilities and every decision you make will ultimately have a different effect on your life. So whether or not that's fate I don't know, but I don't believe that all the time lines have been written - in fact I stubbornly refuse to believe or even entertain such a preposterous idea. I believe we make our own luck, our own fate and our decisions.

However on an aside I hope she recovers fully and glad that you're here with us on this plane of existence and that I have got to know you!

Pebs · 30-06-2008, 22:59

I think we all have free will and our choices matter. I think.

If I hadnt have asked my friend to come on holiday with me when I was 15, she wouldnt have asked me to go with her and I wouldnt have thrown peanuts at Mike and we wouldnt have met, and I wouldnt have the kids, and I wouldnt have been the wife of a nerd and got 'into' the internet, and I wouldnt have met you lot, and I wouldnt have split up with him and needed a job, and I wouldnt have joined the police, and I wouldnt have met M, and and and and.........................

It's impossible to comprehend what might have been, because we'll never ever know!

lostkat · 01-07-2008, 10:40

I'm confused about this decision making milarky. If you believe in fate, then does that mean that you never think long and hard about decisions, because the one you're going to make is fate anyway? Does it mean that people who believe in fate think a lot less about making decisions than those who don't?

30-06-2008, 15:55	#24
Belmit The Mouse King of Denmark Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Winchester Posts: 6,476	Somewhere two possible universes have crossed and now there's a Phickers and Peebs infiltrating our reality. __________________

30-06-2008, 16:20	#26
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	I think there is some confusion here between determinism and pre-determinism [predestination] MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

30-06-2008, 16:40	#28
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	I don't believe in fate as I have a mind that's far too pragmatic for that. However I believe in the science behind quantum mechanics and parallel time lines, after all time is just a dimension, and within time it is split into it's own dimension. There are in fact 10 dimensions of time if you believe the theories. However I digress... so I believe that there always are an infinite amount of possibilities and every decision you make will ultimately have a different effect on your life. So whether or not that's fate I don't know, but I don't believe that all the time lines have been written - in fact I stubbornly refuse to believe or even entertain such a preposterous idea. I believe we make our own luck, our own fate and our decisions. However on an aside I hope she recovers fully and glad that you're here with us on this plane of existence and that I have got to know you! __________________ *No No!*

30-06-2008, 22:59	#29
Pebs Easymouth Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,716	I think we all have free will and our choices matter. I think. If I hadnt have asked my friend to come on holiday with me when I was 15, she wouldnt have asked me to go with her and I wouldnt have thrown peanuts at Mike and we wouldnt have met, and I wouldnt have the kids, and I wouldnt have been the wife of a nerd and got 'into' the internet, and I wouldnt have met you lot, and I wouldnt have split up with him and needed a job, and I wouldnt have joined the police, and I wouldnt have met M, and and and and......................... It's impossible to comprehend what might have been, because we'll never ever know! __________________ ...faster you naughty little monkey! Running through hell, heaven can wait!

01-07-2008, 10:40	#30
lostkat Good Cat Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,550	I'm confused about this decision making milarky. If you believe in fate, then does that mean that you never think long and hard about decisions, because the one you're going to make is fate anyway? Does it mean that people who believe in fate think a lot less about making decisions than those who don't? __________________ Oooooh Cecil, what have you done?

30-06-2008, 15:53	#23
BBx Reverse SuBo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 8,673	WEirdness... need pics! BB x