Any Bravia owners here? - Page 4

Mark · 25-10-2008, 22:29

Aha. Sneaky! I like your style.

El, personal choice of course, but I'd go with the Panasonic (indeed I nearly got its little brother six months ago but in the end I decided I didn't need a 26in LCD in the bedroom and got the cheapest integrated 19in LCD I could find). I believe that model is a Which! Best Buy too (as are most of the rest of the Panny range).

phykell · 27-10-2008, 10:48

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Originally Posted by ElRazur

Divine said most things I wanted to contribute tbh. In my experience, there is no way I will advice anyone to buy LCD. The black level details alone is enough reason not to buy one. I have a Panny Viera 42inch plasma tv and everything just look good on it.

Having said that. I am buying a 32inch lcd soon and am torn between the Sony 32v4000 or the Panasonic TX-32LXD70. I know I mentioned I wouldn't advice anyone to buy LCD, but in this case I am after a specific size and have a limited space and budget

I find it hard to agree that the LCD is so much worse than plasma. My (admittedly subjective) view is that from what I've seen of plasmas vs LCDs, the plasmas tend to look a bit "fuzzier", more like a CRT image. Perhaps it's because I spend most of my day staring at an LCD monitor, I don't know, but the latest LCDs look amazing to me especially when used as a computer monitor or playing PS3 games. As I said before, it's hard to get an objective view because no-one's going to set up an LCD and plasma for me, and then let me watch a number of different sources. Ideally, I'd like to see the latest Sony KDL W series, set up properly, vs a plasma for a similar cost. I guess that's the problem with the Internet - it's a double-edged sword because it's made people more willing to hunt for a lowest price and high-street shops less willing to provide proper demos.

Wossi · 29-10-2008, 16:02

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Originally Posted by ElRazur

Divine said most things I wanted to contribute tbh. In my experience, there is no way I will advice anyone to buy LCD. The black level details alone is enough reason not to buy one. I have a Panny Viera 42inch plasma tv and everything just look good on it.

Having said that. I am buying a 32inch lcd soon and am torn between the Sony 32v4000 or the Panasonic TX-32LXD70. I know I mentioned I wouldn't advice anyone to buy LCD, but in this case I am after a specific size and have a limited space and budget

I picked up the 32V4000 on Monday and love it, I think I need to play with the settings slightly, but since I have no idea whether or not it would be better I'm leaving it standard. Still looks gorgeous though

phykell · 06-11-2008, 22:59

I'm now ever more confused than ever. I saw that Richer Sounds have stated stocking the Sony KDL46W4500 so that means I can get a price match from John Lewis if necessary. I just visited Sound and Vision in Bolton - it's the first time I've seen a decent number of TVs set up properly. Unfortunately, going in there with my mind made up about an LCD, a very decent salesman took me and the wife through the various specs, features and details of the Panasonic Vieras versus the Sony LCDs. Sure enough, the plasma looked much better on the SD stuff - not surprising I suppose though there wasn't much in the HD stuff. However, he also showed us the Pioneer Kuro playing Transformers Blu-Ray which was probably the best picture I've seen. I mentioned that I'd be using a PS3 and he said the plasma would do all the freeview SD much better and that the games would look as good or better as well. As for screen burn, there shouldn't be an issue and the longevity of the panels works out in the decades.

I've arranged to take my laptop there to see how a plasma functions as a monitor...

Totally confused now

Mark · 06-11-2008, 23:08

Before you take the laptop, find out what the native resolution of the Kuro is and see if the laptop can get close. Bear in mind Plasmas do tend to have a lower native resolution than LCDs (though this is less true for the high-end models like the Kuro), which may affect your decision and impressions when using a Laptop. I have a Pioneer plasma (a few generations back from the Kuro), and while it's great for pictures from my HTPC, I don't like it so much for text.

divine · 06-11-2008, 23:21

I might be wrong but i'm pretty sure the entire Kuro range is FullHD and as such is 1920x1080.

The old problem plasma had at 720p was they used a 1024x768 panel with rectangular pixels which absolutely blew for using a PC or something on, as you say. New ones at 1080p are much better and essentially perform no differently with regards the sharpness/fuzziness of text.

Told you plasma was better though

The Kuro range is an absolutely sublime set of TVs.

Mark · 06-11-2008, 23:31

That's good to hear.

If I could justify replacing my 4yo Plasma, I would, but I want several more years out of the current one given I paid £3,000 for it (yeah, I got done - I found it for half that price a month later and the shop concerned went bust soon after that).

leowyatt · 07-11-2008, 00:21

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Originally Posted by divine

The old problem plasma had at 720p was they used a 1024x768 panel with rectangular pixels which absolutely blew for using a PC or something on, as you say.

Tell you what my 360 looked amazing 1024x768 over VGA compares to component or VGA at 720p!!!

divine · 07-11-2008, 00:26

I'm entirely sure if that comment is supposed to be agreeing/disagreeing or is just a random fact you felt like slipping in

leowyatt · 07-11-2008, 00:30

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Originally Posted by divine

I'm entirely sure if that comment is supposed to be agreeing/disagreeing or is just a random fact you felt like slipping in

hahah basically I'm saying bollocks to the fact that you are saying it doesn't look good!

As Mark suggested go for the native resolution for your TV. If you can afford a Full HD then go for it but for me 1024x768 on my 360 looks sweet for everything from games to HD movies

06-11-2008, 22:59	#34
phykell Vodka Martini Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 833	I'm now ever more confused than ever. I saw that Richer Sounds have stated stocking the Sony KDL46W4500 so that means I can get a price match from John Lewis if necessary. I just visited Sound and Vision in Bolton - it's the first time I've seen a decent number of TVs set up properly. Unfortunately, going in there with my mind made up about an LCD, a very decent salesman took me and the wife through the various specs, features and details of the Panasonic Vieras versus the Sony LCDs. Sure enough, the plasma looked much better on the SD stuff - not surprising I suppose though there wasn't much in the HD stuff. However, he also showed us the Pioneer Kuro playing Transformers Blu-Ray which was probably the best picture I've seen. I mentioned that I'd be using a PS3 and he said the plasma would do all the freeview SD much better and that the games would look as good or better as well. As for screen burn, there shouldn't be an issue and the longevity of the panels works out in the decades. I've arranged to take my laptop there to see how a plasma functions as a monitor... Totally confused now __________________

06-11-2008, 23:21	#36
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	I might be wrong but i'm pretty sure the entire Kuro range is FullHD and as such is 1920x1080. The old problem plasma had at 720p was they used a 1024x768 panel with rectangular pixels which absolutely blew for using a PC or something on, as you say. New ones at 1080p are much better and essentially perform no differently with regards the sharpness/fuzziness of text. Told you plasma was better though The Kuro range is an absolutely sublime set of TVs. __________________

07-11-2008, 00:26	#39
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	I'm entirely sure if that comment is supposed to be agreeing/disagreeing or is just a random fact you felt like slipping in __________________

25-10-2008, 22:29	#31
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Aha. Sneaky! I like your style. El, personal choice of course, but I'd go with the Panasonic (indeed I nearly got its little brother six months ago but in the end I decided I didn't need a 26in LCD in the bedroom and got the cheapest integrated 19in LCD I could find). I believe that model is a Which! Best Buy too (as are most of the rest of the Panny range).

06-11-2008, 23:08	#35
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Before you take the laptop, find out what the native resolution of the Kuro is and see if the laptop can get close. Bear in mind Plasmas do tend to have a lower native resolution than LCDs (though this is less true for the high-end models like the Kuro), which may affect your decision and impressions when using a Laptop. I have a Pioneer plasma (a few generations back from the Kuro), and while it's great for pictures from my HTPC, I don't like it so much for text.

06-11-2008, 23:31	#37
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	That's good to hear. If I could justify replacing my 4yo Plasma, I would, but I want several more years out of the current one given I paid £3,000 for it (yeah, I got done - I found it for half that price a month later and the shop concerned went bust soon after that).