Any Bravia owners here? - Page 5

divine · 07-11-2008, 00:34

Well, like I said, i'm 99% sure the entire Kuro range is 1920x1080 anyway, so it doesn't matter if he goes for one of those.

A 360 however, is not a PC though, which means your point is somewhat irrelevant to what I said about them looking poor on the odd aspect pixels of an old 720p plasma TV.

phykell · 07-11-2008, 10:38

I hate admitting I was wrong about this whole issue

The Kuro we saw last night was 1920x1080. The salesman described it as "the best TV in the world" which I thought was quite a claim. I've never seen better myself of course but the best there is? Turns out that the various review sites agree as well but what i couldn't get over is the price. OK, so it's over £2K but isn't that a bit cheap for the "best"? The guy gestured over at the TV and I just assumed it would be 4K or 6K, etc. so it was really surprising when he said around £2,400. It makes me wonder why someone would go for one of the Sony X or Z type TVs which are substantially more than that. One downside is that you have to buy an amplifier and speakers separately for the Kuro. Apparently this is so people can buy just the panel and provide their own sound system which makes sense I suppose.

Looking forward to seeing some of the Panasonic Vieras now

leowyatt · 07-11-2008, 10:47

Kuro is believed to be the best out there at the moment. If you spend any time on the avforums you'll see if anyone has a big budget the Kuros will get recommended as they are stunning.

ElRazur · 07-11-2008, 13:29

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Originally Posted by Mark

Aha. Sneaky! I like your style.

El, personal choice of course, but I'd go with the Panasonic (indeed I nearly got its little brother six months ago but in the end I decided I didn't need a 26in LCD in the bedroom and got the cheapest integrated 19in LCD I could find). I believe that model is a Which! Best Buy too (as are most of the rest of the Panny range).

The panasonic lcd comes with 100hz, and from what I have read, it is a feature one cannot turn off and apparently gives the image a "big brother cam look" [You know when viewers are made to watch from the perspective of one of those camera on Big Brother?...Apparently something like that]

So for now, all eyes on the sony.

ElRazur · 07-11-2008, 13:31

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Originally Posted by phykell

As I said before, it's hard to get an objective view because no-one's going to set up an LCD and plasma for me, and then let me watch a number of different sources.

Richer sounds should allow you to do that.

Not sure if they will allow you to connect you own external sources though.

ElRazur · 07-11-2008, 13:39

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Originally Posted by Wossi

I picked up the 32V4000 on Monday and love it, I think I need to play with the settings slightly, but since I have no idea whether or not it would be better I'm leaving it standard. Still looks gorgeous though

Lucky you. I was meant to pick up end of this month, but I was way over-budget and had to wait till end of this month now.

Please tell me more about it and if you can, please bless my curiosity with some pictures. Thanks.

By the way, there are recommended settings on the avforums.

Mark · 07-11-2008, 14:25

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Originally Posted by ElRazur

The panasonic lcd comes with 100hz, and from what I have read, it is a feature one cannot turn off and apparently gives the image a "big brother cam look" [You know when viewers are made to watch from the perspective of one of those camera on Big Brother?...Apparently something like that]

So for now, all eyes on the sony.

I've never experienced 100Hz on an LCD so I can't comment, though I can understand why it might be trouble. 100Hz was beneficial for a CRT but I'm not convinced for LCD use.

Not all the Vieras have that feature, however.

leowyatt · 07-11-2008, 14:26

We have 100Hz on our Panasonic Plasma and have never had any trouble with the picture :/

divine · 07-11-2008, 14:39

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Originally Posted by Mark

I've never experienced 100Hz on an LCD so I can't comment, though I can understand why it might be trouble. 100Hz was beneficial for a CRT but I'm not convinced for LCD use.

Not all the Vieras have that feature, however.

Well, it's not the same thing really, on LCDs it is a post processing feature creating extra frames in the video, on a CRT that wasn't what it was doing at all. An LCD doesn't have a 'refresh rate' in the same sense a CRT does, as the individual pixels only refresh as and when they need to for the most part.

If the LCD in question isn't very good at this, it can really ruin the picture.

Toby · 07-11-2008, 22:06

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Originally Posted by divine

Well, like I said, i'm 99% sure the entire Kuro range is 1920x1080 anyway, so it doesn't matter if he goes for one of those.

No, there are HD ready Kuros.

The 1080p Kuros cost the earth. Yes they're the best out there but so they damn well should be at the price tbh

07-11-2008, 00:34	#41
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	Well, like I said, i'm 99% sure the entire Kuro range is 1920x1080 anyway, so it doesn't matter if he goes for one of those. A 360 however, is not a PC though, which means your point is somewhat irrelevant to what I said about them looking poor on the odd aspect pixels of an old 720p plasma TV. __________________

07-11-2008, 10:38	#42
phykell Vodka Martini Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 833	I hate admitting I was wrong about this whole issue The Kuro we saw last night was 1920x1080. The salesman described it as "the best TV in the world" which I thought was quite a claim. I've never seen better myself of course but the best there is? Turns out that the various review sites agree as well but what i couldn't get over is the price. OK, so it's over £2K but isn't that a bit cheap for the "best"? The guy gestured over at the TV and I just assumed it would be 4K or 6K, etc. so it was really surprising when he said around £2,400. It makes me wonder why someone would go for one of the Sony X or Z type TVs which are substantially more than that. One downside is that you have to buy an amplifier and speakers separately for the Kuro. Apparently this is so people can buy just the panel and provide their own sound system which makes sense I suppose. Looking forward to seeing some of the Panasonic Vieras now __________________

07-11-2008, 10:47	#43
leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	Kuro is believed to be the best out there at the moment. If you spend any time on the avforums you'll see if anyone has a big budget the Kuros will get recommended as they are stunning. __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"

07-11-2008, 14:26	#48
leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	We have 100Hz on our Panasonic Plasma and have never had any trouble with the picture :/ __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"