Left 4 Dead

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by Davey_Pitch

I'm not having a go at you in particular, but I've seen so many comments about FPS games being so much better on the PC than console, it's simply pissing me off. If people prefer to use a mouse and keyboard, then fair play to them. Say that as your reason, as you just did there, but don't say that using a pad makes the game rubbish, because it doesn't (again, not aimed at you, just a general rant).



Again, down to personal preference. I don't really mind a little assistance, though if a game had none and had me rely on my skill with a pad, I'd be happy as well (it would certainly sharped up my skills). I don't see how it ruins the game though, but hey, that's just me, and probably not an argument/discussion to start in this therad.

You seem a bit sensitive about something which seems empirically true, that PCs are inherently better to play FPS games on?

If you disagree I will be happy to go 1v1 in UT2004 any time with our respective choice of control methods

[leowyatt]

You should use Shadowrun as a comparison DD.

[divine]

Mostly, dirtydog, because the effort involved in setting up another account for Amazon isn't worth £3 to me

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by leowyatt

You should use Shadowrun as a comparison DD.

Never played it, is it more likely to prove my point or his?

[NokkonWud]

Originally Posted by dirtydog

You seem a bit sensitive about something which seems empirically true, that PCs are inherently better to play FPS games on?

If you disagree I will be happy to go 1v1 in UT2004 any time with our respective choice of control methods

There's a difference between preferences. I feel mouse and keyboard is better for a twitch shooter however the feeling playing with it is massively de-sensitised.
I get much more enjoyment tracking an enemy, judging his speed and movement, squeezing the trigger and popping a headshot than just moving a mouse over his head and clicking once.

I feel more a part of the game with a pad. I also don't sit lurched over a computer desk.

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by divine

Mostly, dirtydog, because the effort involved in setting up another account for Amazon isn't worth £3 to me

30 seconds of typing and clicking to earn £3? I would.

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by NokkonWud

There's a difference between preferences. I feel mouse and keyboard is better for a twitch shooter however the feeling playing with it is massively de-sensitised.
I get much more enjoyment tracking an enemy, judging his speed and movement, squeezing the trigger and popping a headshot than just moving a mouse over his head and clicking once.

I feel more a part of the game with a pad. I also don't sit lurched over a computer desk.

I'm talking about UT2004, not Counter Strike. Unless you are playing noobs then you aren't going to find a UT player just standing there waiting to get neatly head shotted

[leowyatt]

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Never played it, is it more likely to prove my point or his?

you can use a keyboard and mouse and play against him on his controller both of you can play over live that to me would be a fair comparsion.

[NokkonWud]

Did I or did I not say 'twitch shooter'? I played and loved UT, though I was never great. I played and loved CS and played amongst the best mixes in the country (uninspired, endgame, asot etc...) so I do know what it's like to play at a high level on a PC using M&K, however, as I stated, you are separated from the gaming experience in none-twitch shooters.

I've noticed more PC bitters complaining about this recently. Anything to try and maintain that PC's are the premier format I guess.

[NokkonWud]

Originally Posted by leowyatt

you can use a keyboard and mouse and play against him on his controller both of you can play over live that to me would be a fair comparsion.

Not a great comparison because they massively gimped both control methods and in doing so, botched a potentially good game.