Krypton Factor - Female advantage fair? - Page 5

Desmo · 07-01-2009, 16:51

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Originally Posted by Pumpkinstew

The point, which you either ignored or missed, was the event apparatus has a bias in it which is being alleviated by the head start.

Sorry, missed

I know there's a bias towards the men, but I still see it as a direct competition between people so don't see any need for the bias to be corrected.

I guess this is where my viewpoint differs. I see this as a direct competition between everyone and I don't see why it should be handicapped.

I know it was a silly programme, but take that Total Wipeout that was on BBC1 the other night. Men, women, young, old...all on exactly the same assault course doing the same thing. Nobody was put at an advantage or disadvantage. I guess I see KF as the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Admiral Huddy

Of course but please post pics of your gonads in the morning

Stop hassling me for pics of my gonads or I'll call the police this time.

Will · 07-01-2009, 16:55

I think you should get bonus time like htey do in gladiators for the amount of points you're ahead. So that everyone has as much chance as the next. So let us say that out of the challenges the blokes won some but lost some and had a 3s head start one day but the woman in the next show had a 7s start because she did better in the previous events - surely that would make it fairer?

Mark · 07-01-2009, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Desmo

I know it was a silly programme, but take that Total Wipeout that was on BBC1 the other night. Men, women, young, old...all on exactly the same assault course doing the same thing. Nobody was put at an advantage or disadvantage. I guess I see KF as the same thing.

Not all assault courses are built equal, and they're not all built to test the same things. The KF assault course is the sort of thing you'd find in the military, and is a plain old physical ability test. Total Wipeout is as much about skill as it is fitness - go at it all out and you'll almost certainly come a cropper.

For example, the balls. Has anyone ever got across them? Best policy there may well be just to dive in the water and ignore the balls. The wall is all technique.

I think this is one of those were no-one is going to get convinced either way and we'll just have to agree to disagree. Unless, of course, someone knows the producers of the show and can ask them to explain themselves.

Pheebs · 07-01-2009, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Desmo

Stop hassling me for pics of my gonads or I'll call the police this time.

You just want PC Pebs to come cuff you up don't you

Desmo · 07-01-2009, 18:31

Is that what they call it these days?

Piggymon · 07-01-2009, 19:09

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Originally Posted by Will

Pitch me up against a professional female triathelete it will be a lot closer and quite possibly may lose but that's the top 1% of female performance vs and average bloke (me).
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Come off it .. you'd lose big time

A Place of Light · 07-01-2009, 19:28

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Originally Posted by Desmo

OK, here's another angle on this.

It's 2012. The London Olympics and there's a new event, the mixed 100m. Men and woman can choose to compete in this event together. Should the women be given a head start?

Yes.
If you allow men and women to compete side by side then if you don't give the women some kind of advantage then you're creating an event that the women cannot win bar some unusual circumstances such as an accident.

As much as some people don't want to hear it, men and women are built differently in so many respects. In single sex contests then each compete against their peers, but for a mixed event an advantage should be given to the females where possible.

Will · 07-01-2009, 19:37

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Originally Posted by Piggymon

Come off it .. you'd lose big time

Hey leave me to have some pride, I did admit I might lose, not big time though! I have trained with a few (not professionals obviously) so I do know what they're capable of!

Piggymon · 07-01-2009, 19:41

You should have pride, you're a fit dude but against a triathlete I doubt many people would stand a chance unless they were in the same sport themselves

I'd love to give that assualt course a try myself to see how I did

Muban · 07-01-2009, 20:06

Were all the guys the same age incidentally? I know the old Krypton Factor also took age into account as well as gender.

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Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	I think you should get bonus time like htey do in gladiators for the amount of points you're ahead. So that everyone has as much chance as the next. So let us say that out of the challenges the blokes won some but lost some and had a 3s head start one day but the woman in the next show had a 7s start because she did better in the previous events - surely that would make it fairer? __________________ *No No!*

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Piggymon Lara Croft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: PigmoPad - Braintree Essex Posts: 8,604	You should have pride, you're a fit dude but against a triathlete I doubt many people would stand a chance unless they were in the same sport themselves I'd love to give that assualt course a try myself to see how I did __________________ BF% 28/08/08 - 21%

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Muban Shoes, Boobs & Corsets Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The fastest town in Scotland Posts: 1,882	Were all the guys the same age incidentally? I know the old Krypton Factor also took age into account as well as gender. __________________ well, not to put a too fine point to it, he was discovered.. in the lounge