Windows 7 (beta 1) - Page 2

Kainz · 13-01-2009, 14:28

I'll be most likely getting that. I'll be buggered if I'm opting for Vista Basic

Admiral Huddy · 13-01-2009, 17:17

Windows 7 doesn't seem to like my nforce3 chipset.

Garp · 13-01-2009, 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daz

As a home user I rarely see UAC, as a network admin I see it all the time - and a lot of those times it's not neccesary (I normally only start computer management to tinker with something on a remote machine, yet am always prompted), so that's great news for me. The guy's only real concern is IE8.

On Kari's laptop I seem to routinely come across it for the often the most bizarre of reasons; e.g. If I plug in my external hard disk, I can't access it without confirming a UAC prompt, even just simple stuff like copying files from my user location to it causes it. From how that description of Windows 7's UAC reads hopefully that should fall under "user initiated action". UAC under Vista annoys me in ways gksudo never does under Gnome. At least it's appearance under Gnome always seems logical to me.

Daz · 13-01-2009, 18:06

Yeah, and the more they move over to PolicyKit the less I see prompts at all - If I'm just looking/checking settings I dont need to be prompted.

LeperousDust · 13-01-2009, 19:25

I installed it on a spare laptop but didn't pay attention to the fact it was only running intel i915 graphics, so lost out on Glass, which a lot of the cool new stuff is obviously based on... It felt very much like vista with pinned big icons. For the short time i played it was nothing bad at all though. Seems good and i'd like to run it on some real hardware...

Garp · 14-01-2009, 08:32

I'm seriously impressed with how well this is running on 'outdated' hardware, especially when I compare it the experiences I've had with Vista (even freshly installed) on new hardware. Graphics card in this isn't any cop at all, won't even do DirectX under Vista/7 so can't see any of the fancy graphics, but everything else runs smoothly and nicely. It's responsive, and barely taking up any memory (base of OS is coming to about 400Mb, I think.) Vista has been seriously annoying me with how much of a chore it can be to do stuff like open Control Panel, 7 is doing it almost instantly, even when I'm deliberately thrashing the system. It may well be something as simple as making the UI the highest priority for the scheduler, but whatever it is it's working. Given the UI is the most conscious aspect of an OS it's been critical for them to get this right.

edit: Another geeky bonus that most people won't realise is the network layer. For Server 2008 the entire networking layer was completely rebuilt from ground up to reduce overhead and latency.

Halfmad · 14-01-2009, 23:30

Sounding good, I'm still a fan of XP even on newer machines (rarely have problems with it) but will be looking at Windows 7 once my new HDDs arrive this weekend, might be worth a bash. Just curious though, anyone using the 64 bit version of it for gaming etc? how's the compatibility?

LeperousDust · 15-01-2009, 05:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garp

edit: Another geeky bonus that most people won't realise is the network layer. For Server 2008 the entire networking layer was completely rebuilt from ground up to reduce overhead and latency.

Actually i did notice this

It's blisteringly fast in network shares. I'm in and out of them all the time on XP and Vista and using them on 7 was amazing! That is something i'm definitely very happy with!

Halfmad · 15-01-2009, 10:00

I was using server 2008 on my PC for gaming a few weeks ago, surprisingly good it is too! Rather chunky though and after setting it up as a workstation I couldn't do the work that my employers had given me a license for, so had to wipe it :-P

Great whilst it lasted though!

divine · 15-01-2009, 21:45

Just tried it and it booted from the DV but the first screen was just blank and stayed blank.

I went back to XP and when I put the DVD in my DVD-RW Windows can't see it or even get a handle on the size. I'm guessing the disc is corrupt and that with a decent DVD XP should be able to 'see' it and let me explore the contents etc. ?

13-01-2009, 14:28	#11
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13-01-2009, 17:17	#12
Admiral Huddy HOMO-Sapien Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 6,692	Windows 7 doesn't seem to like my nforce3 chipset. __________________ I just got lost in thought.. It was very unfamiliar territory. Techie Talk \| My gaming Blog \| PC spec \| The Admirals log

13-01-2009, 18:06	#14
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	Yeah, and the more they move over to PolicyKit the less I see prompts at all - If I'm just looking/checking settings I dont need to be prompted. __________________ apt-get moo

13-01-2009, 19:25	#15
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	I installed it on a spare laptop but didn't pay attention to the fact it was only running intel i915 graphics, so lost out on Glass, which a lot of the cool new stuff is obviously based on... It felt very much like vista with pinned big icons. For the short time i played it was nothing bad at all though. Seems good and i'd like to run it on some real hardware... __________________

14-01-2009, 08:32	#16
Garp Preparing more tumbleweed Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 6,038	I'm seriously impressed with how well this is running on 'outdated' hardware, especially when I compare it the experiences I've had with Vista (even freshly installed) on new hardware. Graphics card in this isn't any cop at all, won't even do DirectX under Vista/7 so can't see any of the fancy graphics, but everything else runs smoothly and nicely. It's responsive, and barely taking up any memory (base of OS is coming to about 400Mb, I think.) Vista has been seriously annoying me with how much of a chore it can be to do stuff like open Control Panel, 7 is doing it almost instantly, even when I'm deliberately thrashing the system. It may well be something as simple as making the UI the highest priority for the scheduler, but whatever it is it's working. Given the UI is the most conscious aspect of an OS it's been critical for them to get this right. edit: Another geeky bonus that most people won't realise is the network layer. For Server 2008 the entire networking layer was completely rebuilt from ground up to reduce overhead and latency. __________________ Mal: Define "interesting"? Wash: "Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die"? Last edited by Garp; 14-01-2009 at 08:38.

14-01-2009, 23:30	#17
Halfmad Nice weak cup of Earl Grey Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 24	Sounding good, I'm still a fan of XP even on newer machines (rarely have problems with it) but will be looking at Windows 7 once my new HDDs arrive this weekend, might be worth a bash. Just curious though, anyone using the 64 bit version of it for gaming etc? how's the compatibility?

15-01-2009, 10:00	#19
Halfmad Nice weak cup of Earl Grey Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 24	I was using server 2008 on my PC for gaming a few weeks ago, surprisingly good it is too! Rather chunky though and after setting it up as a workstation I couldn't do the work that my employers had given me a license for, so had to wipe it :-P Great whilst it lasted though!

15-01-2009, 21:45	#20
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	Just tried it and it booted from the DV but the first screen was just blank and stayed blank. I went back to XP and when I put the DVD in my DVD-RW Windows can't see it or even get a handle on the size. I'm guessing the disc is corrupt and that with a decent DVD XP should be able to 'see' it and let me explore the contents etc. ? __________________