Ouch. Deputy shown kicking and punching young girl - Page 3

A Place of Light · 02-03-2009, 19:19

Without hearing what happened before this, it's just not possible to clamber onto a high horse on this.
For all any of us know, she could've just stabbed his partner.

Appropriate? No.
Understandable given the right kind of provocation? Possibly.

Everyone has a breaking point, and it is possible that this video doesn't show the actions of a thug.....it shows the result of a man at the end of his tether.

Fayshun · 03-03-2009, 18:12

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Originally Posted by A Place of Light

Appropriate? No.
Understandable given the right kind of provocation? No.

Fixed, she's in a cell with an inch and a half thick steel door, use it! She was already behind it and it could've all been over. No amount of provocation form a prisoner warrants that response.

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Originally Posted by A Place of Light

Everyone has a breaking point, and it is possible that this video doesn't show the actions of a thug.....it shows the result of a man at the end of his tether.

Again, as I and others who work in this environment have said, there's no excuse for letting a prisoner wind you up to that extent. There's a door there use it.

Garp · 03-03-2009, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Fayshun

Again, as I and others who work in this environment have said, there's no excuse for letting a prisoner wind you up to that extent. There's a door there use it.

My first thought on watching the video was this, and then also that surely the officer could/should be in a position of "smug moral superiority"

Fayshun · 03-03-2009, 19:45

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Originally Posted by Garp

"smug moral superiority"

Otherwise known as watching through the spyhole in the door and taking the piss watching them on CCTV as they have a tantrum.

The best ones are the ones who genuinely believe they can roundhouse kick/punch/shoulderbarge a 1.5" solid steel door open.

ojo · 03-03-2009, 22:42

The officer obviously has issues of some sort. Really, is it appropriate to have his sort working in the police force?

A Place of Light · 04-03-2009, 00:31

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Originally Posted by Fayshun

Fixed, she's in a cell with an inch and a half thick steel door, use it! She was already behind it and it could've all been over. No amount of provocation form a prisoner warrants that response.

No, it doesn't.
However that's not what I said, is it?
What I did say, is that if certain events had occured before what we see on the video, it would be understandable.
Wrong, but understandable.....in the same way that if someone murdered one of your children then it'd be understandable if you took matters into your own hands and did the same to them.

Fayshun · 04-03-2009, 03:05

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Originally Posted by A Place of Light

No, it doesn't.
However that's not what I said, is it?
What I did say, is that if certain events had occured before what we see on the video, it would be understandable.
Wrong, but understandable.....in the same way that if someone murdered one of your children then it'd be understandable if you took matters into your own hands and did the same to them.

If you're the sort of person that reacts like that, then custody isn't for you. I've had threats of violence, death threats, invitations to go toe to toe, wishes that I die of cancer and been called every name under the sun but I've never risen to the bait.

Well I did once but the guy ended up crying.

A Place of Light · 04-03-2009, 19:03

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Originally Posted by Fayshun

If you're the sort of person that reacts like that, then custody isn't for you. I've had threats of violence, death threats, invitations to go toe to toe, wishes that I die of cancer and been called every name under the sun but I've never risen to the bait.

Well I did once but the guy ended up crying.

Hey, for all I know the guy in question is a complete knucklehead who has done this type of thing a million times. All I'm saying is that the video only shows the end result, and that there may well be significant provocation behind his reactions.

Everyone will snap if the right buttons are pressed, it's just that most normal people never have to deal with the type of situation that might cause them to react so out of character.

Von Smallhausen · 04-03-2009, 21:33

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Originally Posted by A Place of Light

Without hearing what happened before this, it's just not possible to clamber onto a high horse on this.
For all any of us know, she could've just stabbed his partner.

Appropriate? No.
Understandable given the right kind of provocation? Possibly.

Everyone has a breaking point, and it is possible that this video doesn't show the actions of a thug.....it shows the result of a man at the end of his tether.

If a prisoner winds you up to the point of assaulting them then you are in the wrong job.

mok` · 05-03-2009, 00:31

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Originally Posted by ojo

The officer obviously has issues of some sort. Really, is it appropriate to have his sort working in the police force?

Dunno, porbably best place for him- means he can take his aggression out on crims rather than children or kittens

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ojo Nice weak cup of Earl Grey Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 40	The officer obviously has issues of some sort. Really, is it appropriate to have his sort working in the police force? __________________

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A Place of Light Absinthe Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,247	Without hearing what happened before this, it's just not possible to clamber onto a high horse on this. For all any of us know, she could've just stabbed his partner. Appropriate? No. Understandable given the right kind of provocation? Possibly. Everyone has a breaking point, and it is possible that this video doesn't show the actions of a thug.....it shows the result of a man at the end of his tether.