Definitely considering a HTC hero - Page 2

LeperousDust · 27-07-2009, 10:43

Interestingly just fell across Co-Pilot for android launched within the last month or so http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/android/ it's a traditional app in the sense you don't pay a subscription and the maps are one time downloaded and updated as and when necessary...

iCraig · 28-07-2009, 09:48

Reviews are out and it's "not great"

http://www.i4u.com/article26050.html
http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/htc-hero-review/

Both comment on it being laggy and sluggish.

Mark · 28-07-2009, 09:56

Other reviews say the same, and then go on to say that if you don't load it down with a ton of widgets it's much better. twitter app is the worst offender apparently.

Daz · 28-07-2009, 13:16

Hmm. You wonder how much of it they could fix in software, and how easy the homebrew folks can get at it to strip it down.

Arriving in T-Mobile stores any day, still going to take a look. Performance aside the reviews are largely positive, but performance could still be a deal breaker if it's unbearable.

Mark · 28-07-2009, 13:26

Absolutely. It's not a matter of stripping it down though - each widget is a Linux process. Drag the widget to the 'bin' and it's gone, process and all (obviously you can add it back again later). With seven screens potentially full of widgets it's hardly surprising that resource contention happens (though a faster CPU would undoubtedly have helped).

Donut may help out if HTC port Sense to it as it seems there's been some performance tweaks going on there.

Should be in the online shop today but I checked earlier and it wasn't yet.

Daz · 28-07-2009, 13:35

There may well be some hacky speed gains to be had which HTC wont do (disabling certain visual effects all together for example) - homebrew could come up with some reasonable middle ground alternatives. Suppose it depends on where the bottlenecks are under various conditions.

Anyway, I'm not put off yet. If the performance is manageable, it's still top of my list. Though admittedly the only web centric social app I use appears to be the chunkiest widget - Twitter

Mark · 28-07-2009, 13:37

I don't use any social apps at all, though I probably should use Twitter (been following a few feeds manually and no doubt having an account would make life much easier there).

Mark · 28-07-2009, 14:53

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobil...ouch/overview/

Enjoy.

iCraig · 28-07-2009, 14:55

Is that hot off the press?

Edit: Black looks much better than graphite. On par with the white, so I may still go for this. Especially if I can strip away unneeded crap to maximise perfomance. Not ideal but this still seems to outrank the rivals so far.

Mark · 28-07-2009, 15:05

Combi 20 works out the same price as the Orange deal I was offered. T-mobile 200min/400text/1GBdata vs Orange 400min/unltdtext/500MBdata, but I'd be inclined to play them against each other as I really wouldn't mind a change of scenery.

PS - my free (Quidco) broadband dongle turned up this morning so I'm no longer bothered about tethering.

27-07-2009, 10:43	#11
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	Interestingly just fell across Co-Pilot for android launched within the last month or so http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/android/ it's a traditional app in the sense you don't pay a subscription and the maps are one time downloaded and updated as and when necessary... __________________ Last edited by LeperousDust; 27-07-2009 at 10:45.

28-07-2009, 09:48	#12
iCraig iCustom User Title Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,250	Reviews are out and it's "not great" http://www.i4u.com/article26050.html http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/23/htc-hero-review/ Both comment on it being laggy and sluggish. __________________

28-07-2009, 13:16	#14
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	Hmm. You wonder how much of it they could fix in software, and how easy the homebrew folks can get at it to strip it down. Arriving in T-Mobile stores any day, still going to take a look. Performance aside the reviews are largely positive, but performance could still be a deal breaker if it's unbearable. __________________ apt-get moo

28-07-2009, 13:35	#16
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	There may well be some hacky speed gains to be had which HTC wont do (disabling certain visual effects all together for example) - homebrew could come up with some reasonable middle ground alternatives. Suppose it depends on where the bottlenecks are under various conditions. Anyway, I'm not put off yet. If the performance is manageable, it's still top of my list. Though admittedly the only web centric social app I use appears to be the chunkiest widget - Twitter __________________ apt-get moo

28-07-2009, 14:55	#19
iCraig iCustom User Title Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,250	Is that hot off the press? Edit: Black looks much better than graphite. On par with the white, so I may still go for this. Especially if I can strip away unneeded crap to maximise perfomance. Not ideal but this still seems to outrank the rivals so far. __________________ Last edited by iCraig; 28-07-2009 at 14:58.

28-07-2009, 09:56	#13
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Other reviews say the same, and then go on to say that if you don't load it down with a ton of widgets it's much better. twitter app is the worst offender apparently.

28-07-2009, 13:26	#15
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Absolutely. It's not a matter of stripping it down though - each widget is a Linux process. Drag the widget to the 'bin' and it's gone, process and all (obviously you can add it back again later). With seven screens potentially full of widgets it's hardly surprising that resource contention happens (though a faster CPU would undoubtedly have helped). Donut may help out if HTC port Sense to it as it seems there's been some performance tweaks going on there. Should be in the online shop today but I checked earlier and it wasn't yet.

28-07-2009, 13:37	#17
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	I don't use any social apps at all, though I probably should use Twitter (been following a few feeds manually and no doubt having an account would make life much easier there).

28-07-2009, 14:53	#18
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobil...ouch/overview/ Enjoy.

28-07-2009, 15:05	#20
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Combi 20 works out the same price as the Orange deal I was offered. T-mobile 200min/400text/1GBdata vs Orange 400min/unltdtext/500MBdata, but I'd be inclined to play them against each other as I really wouldn't mind a change of scenery. PS - my free (Quidco) broadband dongle turned up this morning so I'm no longer bothered about tethering. Last edited by Mark; 28-07-2009 at 15:13.