Windows pre-order - Page 27

Mark · 26-10-2009, 13:48

I'd always recommend a clean install anyway if you can. You can't predict what baggage an upgrade is going to leave behind and besides there are several upgrade issues already.

NokkonWud · 26-10-2009, 14:53

Mine STILL hasn't arrived. Grrr.

Feek · 26-10-2009, 16:35

There are three different methods of using the upgrade to do a clean install here. Well worth a shufti.

Matblack · 26-10-2009, 16:54

I've just ordered a new 1Tb HDD and what would be ideal for me is to be able to download the upgrade on my current drive and then install to the new HDD so I can boot from the original for a while if I want to (whilst I 'source' a few programs) but I suspect this won't be an option which is annoying :/

I suspect the best thing to do in that case is to burn an ISO and then disconect the original HD and use the ISO to install W7 on the new drive for a shiny new system but I suspect this will be an issue too as I'll probably have to put Vista on first to get that to work :/

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Briggykins · 26-10-2009, 16:58

Yeah I have to say this upgrade install thing is rather annoying. It's installed well enough and is dual booting happily with Vista, but it's installed on the F:\ drive which really annoys me for some reason. Also I didn't want to dual boot with Vista.
Think I'll probably be wiping the HD, installing a clean copy of Vista then upgrading immediately to 7. Quite impressed with 7 so far though, going to take a bit of getting used to but it's got some clever tricks.

Matblack · 26-10-2009, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Briggykins

Yeah I have to say this upgrade install thing is rather annoying. It's installed well enough and is dual booting happily with Vista, but it's installed on the F:\ drive which really annoys me for some reason. Also I didn't want to dual boot with Vista.
Think I'll probably be wiping the HD, installing a clean copy of Vista then upgrading immediately to 7. Quite impressed with 7 so far though, going to take a bit of getting used to but it's got some clever tricks.

Hang on, is this dual booting on a seperate partition or a seperate drive?

If its a seperate drive this could be what I'm looking for as long as it would continued to work after I removed the Vista drive

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Mark · 26-10-2009, 17:06

Installing two versions of Windows alongside each other can have a few gotchas...

If you want to clean install one version of Windows over another, the best thing to do is to use the 'advanced' options (just after the EULA I think), to reformat the partition. Windows setup should then see it as a fresh install and not try to do anything clever.

Beware installing Windows 7 on a second disk (or even a second partition) alongside another copy of Windows if you later intend to remove the original copy. Chances are Windows 7 will rely on the other copy to boot. This was sometimes fixable with the recovery console on XP - I'm not sure if Windows 7 has something similar.

MB, you don't have to put Vista on first. Worst you'll have to do is Install Windows 7 twice. See Feek's post.

LeperousDust · 26-10-2009, 17:12

You can use any upgrade disc to do a full isntall (its called custom and then theres some trickery afterwards).
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/10...oes-full-inst/

You can install W7 anywhere you want including another drive from the advance partition manager menu. If you dual boot with XP/Vista as well then remove the original OS you'll screw the bootloader, but if you load the W7 disc and run its recovery mode i think it should quite happily fix everything for you

http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBC...r+from+the+DVD

Any more questions?

Im currently running W7 fine on my little dell mini 10, very very very impressed with it! Havent activated yet since MS managed to forget to send me a serial key, but hey ho they'll reply eventually and all will be well

For more random windows 7 stuff read these.
http://lifehacker.com/5390086/the-ma...ws-7-shortcuts
http://lifehacker.com/5386953/lifeha...e-to-windows-7
http://lifehacker.com/5388948/top-10...7-booster-apps

Im currently trying panda anti virus although im not sure if im going to stay with it yet, seems to fit in very well with the netbook W7 theme though...

Matblack · 26-10-2009, 17:34

In that case I think I will wait till the new disk arrives tomorrow and just do a clean install off an ISO I can create from the upgrade download then I'll dual boot by switching between drives in the BIOS until I have all the software I need installed on W7, then the old 500Mb can be a storage drive for unimportant things like films

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Briggykins · 26-10-2009, 18:02

Tis another drive...seemed to work okay. The trouble with all the 'clean install with upgrade' guides is that they relate to the DVD and not the download. Still, will stick with this for now and see how it goeths.

26-10-2009, 14:53	#262
NokkonWud BD Recruitment Officer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Smogville Posts: 3,880	Mine STILL hasn't arrived. Grrr. __________________

26-10-2009, 16:35	#263
Feek ex SAS Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: JO01ou Posts: 10,062	There are three different methods of using the upgrade to do a clean install here. Well worth a shufti. __________________

26-10-2009, 16:54	#264
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	I've just ordered a new 1Tb HDD and what would be ideal for me is to be able to download the upgrade on my current drive and then install to the new HDD so I can boot from the original for a while if I want to (whilst I 'source' a few programs) but I suspect this won't be an option which is annoying :/ I suspect the best thing to do in that case is to burn an ISO and then disconect the original HD and use the ISO to install W7 on the new drive for a shiny new system but I suspect this will be an issue too as I'll probably have to put Vista on first to get that to work :/ MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

26-10-2009, 16:58	#265
Briggykins Vodka Martini Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Exeter Posts: 753	Yeah I have to say this upgrade install thing is rather annoying. It's installed well enough and is dual booting happily with Vista, but it's installed on the F:\ drive which really annoys me for some reason. Also I didn't want to dual boot with Vista. Think I'll probably be wiping the HD, installing a clean copy of Vista then upgrading immediately to 7. Quite impressed with 7 so far though, going to take a bit of getting used to but it's got some clever tricks. __________________

26-10-2009, 17:12	#268
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	You can use any upgrade disc to do a full isntall (its called custom and then theres some trickery afterwards). http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/10...oes-full-inst/ You can install W7 anywhere you want including another drive from the advance partition manager menu. If you dual boot with XP/Vista as well then remove the original OS you'll screw the bootloader, but if you load the W7 disc and run its recovery mode i think it should quite happily fix everything for you http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBC...r+from+the+DVD Any more questions? Im currently running W7 fine on my little dell mini 10, very very very impressed with it! Havent activated yet since MS managed to forget to send me a serial key, but hey ho they'll reply eventually and all will be well For more random windows 7 stuff read these. http://lifehacker.com/5390086/the-ma...ws-7-shortcuts http://lifehacker.com/5386953/lifeha...e-to-windows-7 http://lifehacker.com/5388948/top-10...7-booster-apps Im currently trying panda anti virus although im not sure if im going to stay with it yet, seems to fit in very well with the netbook W7 theme though... __________________ Last edited by LeperousDust; 26-10-2009 at 17:21.

26-10-2009, 13:48	#261
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	I'd always recommend a clean install anyway if you can. You can't predict what baggage an upgrade is going to leave behind and besides there are several upgrade issues already.

26-10-2009, 17:06	#267
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Installing two versions of Windows alongside each other can have a few gotchas... If you want to clean install one version of Windows over another, the best thing to do is to use the 'advanced' options (just after the EULA I think), to reformat the partition. Windows setup should then see it as a fresh install and not try to do anything clever. Beware installing Windows 7 on a second disk (or even a second partition) alongside another copy of Windows if you later intend to remove the original copy. Chances are Windows 7 will rely on the other copy to boot. This was sometimes fixable with the recovery console on XP - I'm not sure if Windows 7 has something similar. MB, you don't have to put Vista on first. Worst you'll have to do is Install Windows 7 twice. See Feek's post.

26-10-2009, 17:34	#269
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	In that case I think I will wait till the new disk arrives tomorrow and just do a clean install off an ISO I can create from the upgrade download then I'll dual boot by switching between drives in the BIOS until I have all the software I need installed on W7, then the old 500Mb can be a storage drive for unimportant things like films MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

26-10-2009, 18:02	#270
Briggykins Vodka Martini Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Exeter Posts: 753	Tis another drive...seemed to work okay. The trouble with all the 'clean install with upgrade' guides is that they relate to the DVD and not the download. Still, will stick with this for now and see how it goeths. __________________