Rate the last movie you watched. - Page 133

Garp · 02-11-2009, 15:55

Vaguely tickling my brain from when Valkyrie was released here, Tom Cruise in an interview was saying something like they'd started to try and do the film with German accents, but gave up fairly quickly realising all that was happening was they were butchering them and sounding absolutely awful, and that if they were going to be able to have any respect for the movie they needed to do it straight.

Of course they could have hired a bunch of German actors to do it and have it more authentic. But I guess that's just like how they could have hired a bunch of midgets to play hobbits in the LoTR trilogy but instead went to all the hassle of hiring normal sized people and having to do camera tricks and sfx to make them seem small.

Greenlizard0 · 02-11-2009, 16:16

I always prefer it when they try, and succeed. But if they can't then recast the role. It's like accepting second best which is a strange way of doing things when a lot of movie budgets run into the tens of millions. Though I do agree, I'd rather see a good anything accent than a really bad foreign sounding one.

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Originally Posted by Marstar Jingo

I think if Leo DiCap can pull of a South African Accent for Blood Diamond, then the other actors can do the same!

He did a really good job in that film. Proved to me that he's actually quite talented.

Pheebs · 02-11-2009, 16:27

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Originally Posted by Fayshun

Accents, Sean Connery, Hunt for Red October. Nuff said.

Hahahaha! I was waiting for someone to say that! *cringe*!

Garp - would like to see that interview! IMO they should have practised harder or got someone who could do the accent without sounding moronic!

To me... something like that is like... Hmmm... trying to think of a comparison.

*brain in gear*....

Like like like... auditioning and hiring an actor for a broadway musical who, although can act, can't sing so getting them to mime! Or even just talk the lyrics! It might be better than getting them to sing buuut it's not right - they should get someone who can do the full job properly!!

But this is coming from a person who used to do media and theatre studies so I kind of have a bit of a passion for things to be just right... irritates me when people are given parts in films/plays just because of their famousness as opposed to the talent out there.

Buuut then... who's going to get more wonga in... a more famous name in a film or an unknown.

*sigh*

Stoopid society!

Wow! Rantage! lol! /rant

Matblack · 02-11-2009, 16:42

The funding for Valkerie would have had a stipulation that Cruise played the lead, if he hadn't and you had a whole load of German unknowns you'd have been watching it on HBO

MB

Garp · 02-11-2009, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Pheebs

Like like like... auditioning and hiring an actor for a broadway musical who, although can act, can't sing so getting them to mime! Or even just talk the lyrics! It might be better than getting them to sing buuut it's not right - they should get someone who can do the full job properly!!

But this is coming from a person who used to do media and theatre studies so I kind of have a bit of a passion for things to be just right... irritates me when people are given parts in films/plays just because of their famousness as opposed to the talent out there.

Buuut then... who's going to get more wonga in... a more famous name in a film or an unknown.

*sigh*

Stoopid society!

Wow! Rantage! lol! /rant

Fully agree with you there, sadly the people that finance the films want the big names. They want to know their money is safe, not in the hands of an unknown

Talent means jack diddly squat compared to having the big draw. The whole movie industry is so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. That we get a few gems out of it is more fluke than the result of a system that encourages and nurtures excellence.

Pheebs · 02-11-2009, 17:21

Yeh Garp

Boo!

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Originally Posted by Matblack

The funding for Valkerie would have had a stipulation that Cruise played the lead, if he hadn't and you had a whole load of German unknowns you'd have been watching it on HBO

MB

Indeedy

Boo hiss!

Kitten · 02-11-2009, 18:30

I loved Valkyrie, thought it was brill.

Briggykins · 02-11-2009, 19:50

How To Lose Friends and Alienate People

Apparently it's a Brit-flick, but you wouldn't know it. Journalist Simon Pegg, who likes to snipe at celebrity, gets offered a job with a celeb-fawning magazine in New York. Wanting to carry on his celeb-baiting antics, he's soon assimilated into their way of doing things as well as trying to gain the affections of actress Sophie Maes (Megan Fox) and sort-of-simultaneously, his co-worker Alison (Kirsten Dunst).
It's acceptable fodder - it's not satirical enough to be called satire but you can't really call it a rom-com as that stuff is more a side-plot, at least at the beginning. There are enough chuckles, mostly courtesy of Simon Pegg's delivery, and it passes an hour and a half pleasantly enough. We chose it as a compromise between myself and Mrs Briggykins, and it worked perfectly as that. It did, however, teach me is that Megan Fox actually is very attractive, but I'd still prefer Kirsten Dunst.

6/10

Kitten · 02-11-2009, 19:53

Thinking on.... to make it authentic, surely the cast of Valkyrie should have been speaking in German...rather than in English with a German accent?

semi-pro waster · 02-11-2009, 20:36

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Originally Posted by Fayshun

Accents, Sean Connery, Hunt for Red October. Nuff said.

Oi, I'll have you know that Shirr Sean does the accent of Sean Connery perfectly. I'll admit it doesn't convince as anything other than the unique accent of Sean Connery but that's almost beside the point.

Incidentally I'd raise you him playing an Irish cop in The Untouchables and and Egyptian nobleman in Highlander for examples of worse - although to be fair I'm not even sure that he bothered to pretend in either of them.

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Originally Posted by Kitten

Thinking on.... to make it authentic, surely the cast of Valkyrie should have been speaking in German...rather than in English with a German accent?

Yep but a significant number of people refuse to watch films with subtitles - heathens I call 'em.

Speaking of which you've reminded me of one of the films I've watched recently.

Taxi 3

Starring

Sami Naceri
Frederic Diefenthal
Bernard Farci
Bing Lai

Car based comedy

6/10 I think I'm on record as being a fan of the Taxi series (don't even mention the American remake, I'm pretending that doesn't exist) and this is more of the same, the storyline is more outlandish than before and it isn't as taut as the others, particularly the first, but it's still just plain fun. It's also got the rather delectable Marion Cotilliard in it, never a bad thing as far as I'm concerned.

02-11-2009, 15:55	#1321
Garp Preparing more tumbleweed Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 6,038	Vaguely tickling my brain from when Valkyrie was released here, Tom Cruise in an interview was saying something like they'd started to try and do the film with German accents, but gave up fairly quickly realising all that was happening was they were butchering them and sounding absolutely awful, and that if they were going to be able to have any respect for the movie they needed to do it straight. Of course they could have hired a bunch of German actors to do it and have it more authentic. But I guess that's just like how they could have hired a bunch of midgets to play hobbits in the LoTR trilogy but instead went to all the hassle of hiring normal sized people and having to do camera tricks and sfx to make them seem small. __________________ Mal: Define "interesting"? Wash: "Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die"?

02-11-2009, 16:42	#1324
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	The funding for Valkerie would have had a stipulation that Cruise played the lead, if he hadn't and you had a whole load of German unknowns you'd have been watching it on HBO MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

02-11-2009, 18:30	#1327
Kitten Spinky-Spank Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: 668. The Neighbour of the Beast Posts: 11,226	I loved Valkyrie, thought it was brill. __________________ "You only get one life. There's no God, no rules, except for those you accept or create for yourself. Then once it's over... it's over. Dreamless sleep for ever and ever. So why not be happy while you're here?" Nate Fisher

02-11-2009, 19:50	#1328
Briggykins Vodka Martini Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Exeter Posts: 753	How To Lose Friends and Alienate People Apparently it's a Brit-flick, but you wouldn't know it. Journalist Simon Pegg, who likes to snipe at celebrity, gets offered a job with a celeb-fawning magazine in New York. Wanting to carry on his celeb-baiting antics, he's soon assimilated into their way of doing things as well as trying to gain the affections of actress Sophie Maes (Megan Fox) and sort-of-simultaneously, his co-worker Alison (Kirsten Dunst). It's acceptable fodder - it's not satirical enough to be called satire but you can't really call it a rom-com as that stuff is more a side-plot, at least at the beginning. There are enough chuckles, mostly courtesy of Simon Pegg's delivery, and it passes an hour and a half pleasantly enough. We chose it as a compromise between myself and Mrs Briggykins, and it worked perfectly as that. It did, however, teach me is that Megan Fox actually is very attractive, but I'd still prefer Kirsten Dunst. 6/10 __________________

02-11-2009, 19:53	#1329
Kitten Spinky-Spank Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: 668. The Neighbour of the Beast Posts: 11,226	Thinking on.... to make it authentic, surely the cast of Valkyrie should have been speaking in German...rather than in English with a German accent? __________________ "You only get one life. There's no God, no rules, except for those you accept or create for yourself. Then once it's over... it's over. Dreamless sleep for ever and ever. So why not be happy while you're here?" Nate Fisher