Final Fantasy XIII - Page 3

Streeteh · 10-03-2010, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Aboobie

Is it me though but compared to the The Darkness, Orange Box, Bayonetta etc. 360 > PS3 there's a far bigger song and dance being made now a title is PS3 > 360...

There is a big hoo-ha over not much, but then the same happened when GTAIV came out and the 360 had the edge. The Darkenss, Organse Box and Bayonetta probably have less sales combined (on consoles) than FFXIII or GTAIV will have. Big releases get people riled up, it's not entirely just because 'it's PS3'

NokkonWud · 10-03-2010, 16:57

I think a lot of it is to do with the PS3 to be honest. Most of the hoo-ha over GTAIV was that Rockstar delayed its release just to get a working PS3 version of it and that Microsoft had paid $50m for its DLC in a timed exclusivity deal.

In the FFXIII argument I've seen things over improved graphics (and then shown screenshots with almost zero difference) and articles stating that although the Xbox360 has the higher frame-rate, that doesn't matter (despite being all important in every other game.) I've heard so many arguments, including "enjoy swapping discs", as a

From what I've seen, graphically at least, the difference between FFXIII on both consoles isn't as big as GTAIV was on both consoles, although I do think the arguments have died quite a lot in the last 2 weeks, probably coinciding with the poor review scores (although thankfully, almost everyone I know who plays it has said it's much better than those reviews, so I'm looking forward to playing it.)

Personally I would buy the PS3 version, but will be more than happy to play the Xbox360 version (which looks the more likely) and I'm looking forward to it.

Wossi · 11-03-2010, 10:42

I'm going to put my hands up and say I have never played a Final Fantasy game in my life. I assume that if I were to get XIII I wouldn't be missing anything? But before that, what kind of game is it as I've always assumed it's and rpg.

NokkonWud · 11-03-2010, 11:56

It's more precisely, a JRPG. Genre's in games have become rather tenuous at best and when you start classing games like Mass Effect and Fallout 3 as RPG's (which they are) and then Final Fantasy, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia etc.. as RPG's, then something has to change.

There are elements that you will recognize from Mass Effect for example, like levelling, item distributions and weapon upgrades, but it's all done very differently.

As for missing anything, no, the Final Fantasy games are all separate from each other, often featuring completely different characters, the only accurate part of the title is 'Fantasy', because it's neither 'Final', nor are they sequels.

It's quite weird, I'd never known anyone who hadn't played a Final Fantasy game, then in 24 hours I've heard 4 people all ask the same things as you did. Spooky.

Davey_Pitch · 11-03-2010, 14:16

I owned FF VII and probably played it for about 30 minutes, certainly no more than that. Can't remember why either, I don't recall not liking it. To be honest though, JRPGs have never really interested me that much, much prefer the Western RPGs like Fallout and Mass Effect.

NokkonWud · 11-03-2010, 17:35

I too much, much prefer western RPG's, I think there's a lot of snobbery with JRPG's in general, many of them are very poor with little to no progression in how those games work, but when they're good, they're REALLY good.

The problem is, it got really good with Final Fantasy VII and VIII and no one has really been able to beat them since and that's been going on for over a decade.

Streeteh · 21-03-2010, 22:08

Posted this on OcUK, figured it summed up my feelings pretty well:

Clocked the story today, if i'm honest i was a little disappointed. The story (which is the most important part of a FF game for me) just lacked that something that the games have lacked after FFX. The gameplay was epic, probably the best in any FF ever, but i didn't care much about the characters and the plot was ropey at best. I'll always remember how sad i was when the previous games ended, the moment the bright flash of light shrouds Cloud & co from view for the last time, the moment Rinoha points to the sky with Squall, the moment Yuna performs the sending and Tidus fades, this game lacked that. Sure they tried, but there wasn't enough character development for me to care much about the outcome. With that said i can't wait to really explore the endgame and fell the heavyweight as i'm sure i'll enjoy that as much as i enjoyed battling ruby weapon or penance, i just won't ever bother playing the game through again which is a shame.

Still a great game, it just wasn't great for a final fantasy.

Haly · 23-03-2010, 14:25

I'm on Chapter 9 now. Playing relatively slowly as RL things keep getting in the way.

I'm really enjoying it but it doesn't feel like a FF game at times. I don't mind the linearity of it but much like you Streeteh, I've yet to see anything that's enthralled me or made me really feel for the characters.
But I absolutely love the combat system. It's brilliant and I love that the bosses are actually pretty challenging!
When I play it, I don't want to stop playing it which is a good sign but it still lacks something.

So far I'd entirely agree that it's a great game, but not great for a Final Fantasy.

Aboobie · 23-03-2010, 20:02

Thinking of picking this up (PS3 version) very soon.

How is it for save points / saves in general as having the 2 girls makes long sessions problematic.

Haly · 23-03-2010, 20:04

Seems to be a save point every 15-20minutes at least in the first 20hrs or so of the game

Been refreshing to see actually as I can't guarantee hours upon hours either!

10-03-2010, 16:57	#22
NokkonWud BD Recruitment Officer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Smogville Posts: 3,880	I think a lot of it is to do with the PS3 to be honest. Most of the hoo-ha over GTAIV was that Rockstar delayed its release just to get a working PS3 version of it and that Microsoft had paid $50m for its DLC in a timed exclusivity deal. In the FFXIII argument I've seen things over improved graphics (and then shown screenshots with almost zero difference) and articles stating that although the Xbox360 has the higher frame-rate, that doesn't matter (despite being all important in every other game.) I've heard so many arguments, including "enjoy swapping discs", as a From what I've seen, graphically at least, the difference between FFXIII on both consoles isn't as big as GTAIV was on both consoles, although I do think the arguments have died quite a lot in the last 2 weeks, probably coinciding with the poor review scores (although thankfully, almost everyone I know who plays it has said it's much better than those reviews, so I'm looking forward to playing it.) Personally I would buy the PS3 version, but will be more than happy to play the Xbox360 version (which looks the more likely) and I'm looking forward to it. __________________

11-03-2010, 11:56	#24
NokkonWud BD Recruitment Officer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Smogville Posts: 3,880	It's more precisely, a JRPG. Genre's in games have become rather tenuous at best and when you start classing games like Mass Effect and Fallout 3 as RPG's (which they are) and then Final Fantasy, Lost Odyssey, Tales of Vesperia etc.. as RPG's, then something has to change. There are elements that you will recognize from Mass Effect for example, like levelling, item distributions and weapon upgrades, but it's all done very differently. As for missing anything, no, the Final Fantasy games are all separate from each other, often featuring completely different characters, the only accurate part of the title is 'Fantasy', because it's neither 'Final', nor are they sequels. It's quite weird, I'd never known anyone who hadn't played a Final Fantasy game, then in 24 hours I've heard 4 people all ask the same things as you did. Spooky. __________________

11-03-2010, 14:16	#25
Davey_Pitch I iz speshul Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 6,296	I owned FF VII and probably played it for about 30 minutes, certainly no more than that. Can't remember why either, I don't recall not liking it. To be honest though, JRPGs have never really interested me that much, much prefer the Western RPGs like Fallout and Mass Effect. __________________ Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. It's not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own lights shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

11-03-2010, 17:35	#26
NokkonWud BD Recruitment Officer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Smogville Posts: 3,880	I too much, much prefer western RPG's, I think there's a lot of snobbery with JRPG's in general, many of them are very poor with little to no progression in how those games work, but when they're good, they're REALLY good. The problem is, it got really good with Final Fantasy VII and VIII and no one has really been able to beat them since and that's been going on for over a decade. __________________

21-03-2010, 22:08	#27
Streeteh Vodka Martini Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kingston Posts: 862	Posted this on OcUK, figured it summed up my feelings pretty well: Clocked the story today, if i'm honest i was a little disappointed. The story (which is the most important part of a FF game for me) just lacked that something that the games have lacked after FFX. The gameplay was epic, probably the best in any FF ever, but i didn't care much about the characters and the plot was ropey at best. I'll always remember how sad i was when the previous games ended, the moment the bright flash of light shrouds Cloud & co from view for the last time, the moment Rinoha points to the sky with Squall, the moment Yuna performs the sending and Tidus fades, this game lacked that. Sure they tried, but there wasn't enough character development for me to care much about the outcome. With that said i can't wait to really explore the endgame and fell the heavyweight as i'm sure i'll enjoy that as much as i enjoyed battling ruby weapon or penance, i just won't ever bother playing the game through again which is a shame. Still a great game, it just wasn't great for a final fantasy. __________________ PSN & Live! ID: Streeteh

11-03-2010, 10:42	#23
Wossi Absinthe Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In the middle Posts: 1,385	I'm going to put my hands up and say I have never played a Final Fantasy game in my life. I assume that if I were to get XIII I wouldn't be missing anything? But before that, what kind of game is it as I've always assumed it's and rpg.

23-03-2010, 14:25	#28
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	I'm on Chapter 9 now. Playing relatively slowly as RL things keep getting in the way. I'm really enjoying it but it doesn't feel like a FF game at times. I don't mind the linearity of it but much like you Streeteh, I've yet to see anything that's enthralled me or made me really feel for the characters. But I absolutely love the combat system. It's brilliant and I love that the bosses are actually pretty challenging! When I play it, I don't want to stop playing it which is a good sign but it still lacks something. So far I'd entirely agree that it's a great game, but not great for a Final Fantasy. __________________ Halycopter

23-03-2010, 20:02	#29
Aboobie Vodka Martini Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Beverley Posts: 749	Thinking of picking this up (PS3 version) very soon. How is it for save points / saves in general as having the 2 girls makes long sessions problematic. __________________

23-03-2010, 20:04	#30
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	Seems to be a save point every 15-20minutes at least in the first 20hrs or so of the game Been refreshing to see actually as I can't guarantee hours upon hours either! __________________ Halycopter