Boat Drinks Virtual Election - Page 23

Muban · 11-05-2010, 19:09

It's all a bit worrying, no matter how it goes really. Not looking forward to a pay freeze for years to come (which is pretty much a certainty), though I guess I should think myself lucky if I manage to keep my job the way things are going!

On a side note... I've never seen so much of my MP on national telly!

Feek · 11-05-2010, 19:23

Well that's that then.

Glaucus · 11-05-2010, 19:26

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Originally Posted by A Place of Light

If you're a public servant you should be very worried about the prospect of a Tory Govt.

You should be even more worried about a non tory government. If there is a complete melt down due to a doubling on the national debt within 10 years. Then it wont just be public sector.

the fact of the matter is public spending has to be slashed, more money has to be raised. Regardless of who got in.

Why blame the torries for fixing a problem someone else created.

Grandad · 11-05-2010, 20:12

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Originally Posted by A Place of Light

I couldn't agree more, but make no bones about it the Tories WILL cut much further than either of the other two parties and pretty much every pundit agrees on this.

needs to be done though, terrible for anyone directly affected obviously

Mark · 11-05-2010, 20:25

Simple fact is that Labour would really struggle to make the necessary cuts - it's just not in their nature. Tories on the other hand, will cut like crazy, as that's what they do, get unpopular like crazy, and then be annihilated. Ed Miliband for PM.

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Originally Posted by A Place of Light

If you live in the UK you should be very worried.

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Originally Posted by Feek

"Really Fixed for you"

And that's before today's events. If Labour had remained I'd expect we'd have ended up going cap in hand to the IMF and the EU, with austerity measures to follow that make the Conservative manifesto look like a pittance. Indeed, there's no guarantee against that even now.

Matblack · 11-05-2010, 20:29

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Originally Posted by AcidHell2

You should be even more worried about a non tory government. If there is a complete melt down due to a doubling on the national debt within 10 years. Then it wont just be public sector.

the fact of the matter is public spending has to be slashed, more money has to be raised. Regardless of who got in.

Why blame the torries for fixing a problem someone else created.

Wow, you've really bought in to the Tory dream haven't you? Its ping pong politics, Labour overspend and then the Tories over compensate. That's what you get with FPtP elections. The Lib Dems might moderate it a bit this time but the result will be the same until our politicians learn to work together. I will be moving my efforts towards campaigning for PR I think, the Lib Dems might be able to raise their profile but what I want for the future is less ping pong and more cooperation.

MB

Lopez · 11-05-2010, 20:36

"Prime Minister can you give us a wave please sir?"

/David Cameron waves

Mark · 11-05-2010, 20:37

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Originally Posted by Matblack

I will be moving my efforts towards campaigning for PR I think, the Lib Dems might be able to raise their profile but what I want for the future is less ping pong and more cooperation.

Grand sentiments indeed. I'm not entirely sure it'll work quite that way, but nonetheless such wild swings in political opinion do no-one any favours and consensus politics certainly sounds like a good idea.

It'll need more than just PR though - it'll need an end to our adversarial system. One should hopefully lead to the other eventually, but don't bank on it being quick. I just hope they don't go with the AV 'fudge' - that would make things worse. AV+ is the minimum standard IMO.

Glaucus · 11-05-2010, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Matblack

Wow, you've really bought in to the Tory dream haven't you?

Not really, There are several things I don't like about tories. But in this election economy is the most important issue, that I believe Tories will be best at managing. As I have said best of a bad bunch.

I also agree we need more balance in government, I am not convinced about the pros of PR and what actual benefits they will bring. Especially when people keep saying PR and not which model. PR seems much more style over substance with an improved fairness, without any real gains.

GB as chancellor could of avoid lots of these problems, by reducing our deficit in time of boom, you could probably of also increased public spending a little, although I don't know the figures. Since this has not happened. The deficit has to be paid of.

Mark · 11-05-2010, 23:48

Apart from the Capital Gains change, which I'm 99% sure will shaft my SAYE share options, most of what's been 'leaked' so far seems reasonable.

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Labour	8	12.12%
Lib Dem	35	53.03%
Other	1	1.52%
Plaid	1	1.52%
SNP	0	0%
I'm not voting	6	9.09%
Someone else	2	3.03%
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11-05-2010, 19:09	#221
Muban Shoes, Boobs & Corsets Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The fastest town in Scotland Posts: 1,882	It's all a bit worrying, no matter how it goes really. Not looking forward to a pay freeze for years to come (which is pretty much a certainty), though I guess I should think myself lucky if I manage to keep my job the way things are going! On a side note... I've never seen so much of my MP on national telly! __________________ well, not to put a too fine point to it, he was discovered.. in the lounge

11-05-2010, 19:23	#222
Feek ex SAS Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: JO01ou Posts: 10,062	Well that's that then. __________________

11-05-2010, 20:36	#227
Lopez Bad Cat Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 808	"Prime Minister can you give us a wave please sir?" /David Cameron waves __________________ NO

11-05-2010, 23:48	#230
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Apart from the Capital Gains change, which I'm 99% sure will shaft my SAYE share options, most of what's been 'leaked' so far seems reasonable.