CRB checks. Advice please.

[ElRazur]

Hi there guys.

Just thought I should put a quick update on this thread.

As it stand, its been one long and uphill battle to get to the bottom of the matter. After getting Solicitor involved etc, the police finally admitted in writing that it was indeed an Human error. This is in writing and subsequent Enhanced CRB checks have verified this.

The matter is now in heading to court as I look to get back my loss earnings and something called "Hurt to feeling" [Apparently, Americans call this Emotional damage], among other things.

I can't comment too much on it now for obvious reasons.

Thanks to everyone.

[Desmo]

Bloody hell Raz, long time no see

Glad to hear things are moving in the right direction for you.

[ElRazur]

Originally Posted by Desmo

Bloody hell Raz, long time no see

Glad to hear things are moving in the right direction for you.

Thanks. I'm good man.

Back in Uni after the whole fiasco.

[mejinks]

Glad to see this being straightened out. Are you still in the same job?

[ElRazur]

Originally Posted by mejinks

Glad to see this being straightened out. Are you still in the same job?

No. I had to leave.

Basically put it this way, the CRB and police disclosed information that was never true about me to my employer. Also, Police made it look like I was guilty and subsequently leading to "obvious outcome".

[Garp]

We do keep hearing about crap like this happening. People getting bad CRBs because of people with similar or identical names, even if ages and location were completely different. I wonder how many times they'll need to face legal action before someone fixes the ongoing disaster?
If people are being wrongly accused like that, how many are getting clean CRBs who shouldn't?

[ElRazur]

Originally Posted by Garp

We do keep hearing about crap like this happening. People getting bad CRBs because of people with similar or identical names, even if ages and location were completely different. I wonder how many times they'll need to face legal action before someone fixes the ongoing disaster?
If people are being wrongly accused like that, how many are getting clean CRBs who shouldn't?

This event for me was an eye opener.

I used to have a mentality that "the system cannot be wrong", but once it happened to me, my tune was changed.

During the whole fiasco, I read from people who had similar experience. One of them applied for the position of a teacher, and a CRB check on him "revealed" he raped someone in the past. Needless to say, he wasn't employed, but he later took the Police to court and won a decent payout.

The whole CRB needs to be scrapped - including the police checks - and replaced with something more efficient. From what I can tell, the records are fragmented, for example, you have a so called central database where operators appears to be able to make amendment without following proper protocols etc, then you have the local police station records too where anything can be recorded. Oh, and these records are kept for 100 years.

Just to mention briefly about my case - I complained to the ICO [Independent body on information] and they have it written in black and white that the police did not follow the proper rules and it appeared they broke the DPA rules. [some sort of information act or something]

What makes it even depressing is how it takes forever to get a response from either the police or CRB. They seem to just waste time and put across many red tapes in the way as possible in order to frustrate people.


Anyway, I consider myself lucky, there are people with worse cases than mine.

[Kitten]

Originally Posted by Garp

We do keep hearing about crap like this happening. People getting bad CRBs because of people with similar or identical names, even if ages and location were completely different. I wonder how many times they'll need to face legal action before someone fixes the ongoing disaster?
If people are being wrongly accused like that, how many are getting clean CRBs who shouldn't?

The CRB system will default to manual checks if there is a similarity in dob/location/ that matches the name. It is then up to the police to provide a yes or no answer - the CRB can't get any more involved in that, so it's completely down to how much resource the police have and will assign to it. The system is designed to pick up any possible match so as not to miss anyone who *might* be recorded on PNC. Due to that there will always be false positives and that's the way the Government want the system designed. The CRB get more stick than any other Home Office agency I know when in actual fact, they are probably the highest performing and have saved millions of children from being exposed to paedophiles & villains. Most issues are in the way the system is designed and that is exactly what the government asked for.

[Mark]

DPA = Data Protection Act, 1998

Glad it's getting sorted. Shame it had to take lawyers to sort it though.

[Fayshun]

Originally Posted by Kitten

The CRB system will default to manual checks if there is a similarity in dob/location/ that matches the name. It is then up to the police to provide a yes or no answer - the CRB can't get any more involved in that, so it's completely down to how much resource the police have and will assign to it.

One of the things I have to do at work is fingerprint people who are having CRB checks and have a similar name/dob/location to someone with a criminal record.