Poor PC performance?

killerkebab · 27-09-2006, 22:18

I have posted the same thread in OcUK, but I feel I could do with some (ok, many) more opinions. I recently bought this new PC:

E6600
X1800XT
2GB Corsair DDR2 PC6400 (C4)
Abit AB9
2x 150 Raptors

I ran a couple benchmarks on default settings in 3DMark06 and 1M SuperPi:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...res/Test01.jpg

1M SuperPi got me 28 seconds.

According to some this is very poor, but I don't have a clue what to attempt nor where I may have gone wrong... any ideas?
If it helps, I set it up all myself so I probably installed it all wrong, but I just don't know

Matblack · 27-09-2006, 22:22

Its because its not in my house, if you let me look after it, it will run faster

MB

Mark · 27-09-2006, 23:38

Is that CPU running at stock? With good quality coolers, and if you're into overclocking it's nuts off, then you should be able to get a decent overclock on those.

I believe Bijstan has an OC'ed E6600, or at least one of the Core 2 Duo range, so should be able to give you an idea what's possible.

Stan_Lite · 28-09-2006, 08:44

I do indeed have an E6600 at home (which I've "overclocked the nuts off"

).

That 3DMark score looks quite low for that setup and the Superpi is definitely too slow - my E6600 did around 20 seconds at stock with dodgy RAM (under 14 seconds overclocked to 3.5 with the same dodgy RAM).

Not sure what the problem could be without having access. Can you get CPU-Z screenshots (CPU and RAM pages)? Have you tried stress testing with Prime or OCCT or similar? Is it stable?
Photos of the screen with bios settings may help too.

Could be a dodgy chip or motherboard.

Must confess to struggling a little bit at the moment :undecided:

Stan

Edit: Having looked at the 3DMark page, there seems to be something strange with the reported speed for the CPU. CPU-Z screenshots for both cores would be helpful to see what speed they're running at. Also, the pics of the bios screens (especially CPU settings would be very helpful).
I've never had an ABIT board before so I'm not particularly "au fait" with the bios but I should be able to see something in it.

See how I managed to insert some Frogspeak in there? Bijstan, at the forefront of multiculturalism

Admiral Huddy · 28-09-2006, 10:37

Are you sure the memory speeds and frequencies are setup correctly and are on optimal settings?

killerkebab · 28-09-2006, 21:28

CPUZ - CPU Page
CPUZ - RAM Page
CPUZ - First slot RAM Page
CPUZ - Second slot RAM Page

There we go for the CPU-Z screenshots (after I googled to find out exactly what CPU-Z is - I am the noob at this stuff). However I do confess to having no idea how to get BIOS screenshots. I can get into my PCs BIOS, but how do I get screenshots of it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Huddy

Are you sure the memory speeds and frequencies are setup correctly and are on optimal settings?

The thing is, I don't have a clue what 'optimal settings' are. I bought the parts after having read the specs on the box, and sort of assumed that they would run as it says on the box. Now someone is saying the CPU speed is wrong and possibly the RAM. I am confused...

Mark · 28-09-2006, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by killerkebab

However I do confess to having no idea how to get BIOS screenshots. I can get into my PCs BIOS, but how do I get screenshots of it?

Got digital camera? If so, you have an answer (yes, it really is that primitive).

Straight away I can see that you're only running at 1.8GHz, and not the CPU's rated 2.4GHz, so that accounts for some (probably most) of the problem.

Looks like you need to hunt around your BIOS for FSB speed. It's set at 200 MHz when it appears it should be 266.

Stan_Lite · 28-09-2006, 21:38

There we have the problem. Your motherboard has somehow decided to run your CPU at 200x9 instead of 267x9 so it's only running at 1800 MHz instead of 2400 MHz.

If you know how, change the HTT of your CPU from 200 to 267 to get it running at stock. Better check that your memory is on auto as I see it's running a 1:2 divider to reach it's stock frequency of 400MHz.

If you don't know how to change this stuff post bios pics. You won't be able to get a screenshot so you'll need to take a photo of the screen.

Stan

killerkebab · 28-09-2006, 21:41

I can't do this tonight but I will get BIOS pictures tomorrow night. Before I leave, however - I found a utility on my Abit disk called 'uGuru', and queried the fans on the PC. Is this data something to worry about?

uGuru pic

Mark · 28-09-2006, 21:44

Yeah, if that reading's right, and you're running at idle, that CPU temp is far too high. Wouldn't worry about the other two warnings as the software appears to be set to warn at any temperature above 0C.

27-09-2006, 22:18	#1
killerkebab Vodka Martini Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bristol/Reading Posts: 656	Poor PC performance? I have posted the same thread in OcUK, but I feel I could do with some (ok, many) more opinions. I recently bought this new PC: E6600 X1800XT 2GB Corsair DDR2 PC6400 (C4) Abit AB9 2x 150 Raptors I ran a couple benchmarks on default settings in 3DMark06 and 1M SuperPi: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...res/Test01.jpg 1M SuperPi got me 28 seconds. According to some this is very poor, but I don't have a clue what to attempt nor where I may have gone wrong... any ideas? If it helps, I set it up all myself so I probably installed it all wrong, but I just don't know __________________

27-09-2006, 22:22	#2
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	Its because its not in my house, if you let me look after it, it will run faster MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

28-09-2006, 08:44	#4
Stan_Lite Stan, Stan the FLASHER MAN! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In bed with your sister Posts: 5,483	I do indeed have an E6600 at home (which I've "overclocked the nuts off" ). That 3DMark score looks quite low for that setup and the Superpi is definitely too slow - my E6600 did around 20 seconds at stock with dodgy RAM (under 14 seconds overclocked to 3.5 with the same dodgy RAM). Not sure what the problem could be without having access. Can you get CPU-Z screenshots (CPU and RAM pages)? Have you tried stress testing with Prime or OCCT or similar? Is it stable? Photos of the screen with bios settings may help too. Could be a dodgy chip or motherboard. Must confess to struggling a little bit at the moment :undecided: Stan Edit: Having looked at the 3DMark page, there seems to be something strange with the reported speed for the CPU. CPU-Z screenshots for both cores would be helpful to see what speed they're running at. Also, the pics of the bios screens (especially CPU settings would be very helpful). I've never had an ABIT board before so I'm not particularly "au fait" with the bios but I should be able to see something in it. See how I managed to insert some Frogspeak in there? Bijstan, at the forefront of multiculturalism __________________ Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I... Last edited by Stan_Lite; 28-09-2006 at 09:02.

28-09-2006, 10:37	#5
Admiral Huddy HOMO-Sapien Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 6,692	Are you sure the memory speeds and frequencies are setup correctly and are on optimal settings? __________________ I just got lost in thought.. It was very unfamiliar territory. Techie Talk \| My gaming Blog \| PC spec \| The Admirals log

28-09-2006, 21:38	#8
Stan_Lite Stan, Stan the FLASHER MAN! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In bed with your sister Posts: 5,483	There we have the problem. Your motherboard has somehow decided to run your CPU at 200x9 instead of 267x9 so it's only running at 1800 MHz instead of 2400 MHz. If you know how, change the HTT of your CPU from 200 to 267 to get it running at stock. Better check that your memory is on auto as I see it's running a 1:2 divider to reach it's stock frequency of 400MHz. If you don't know how to change this stuff post bios pics. You won't be able to get a screenshot so you'll need to take a photo of the screen. Stan __________________ Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I...

27-09-2006, 23:38	#3
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Is that CPU running at stock? With good quality coolers, and if you're into overclocking it's nuts off, then you should be able to get a decent overclock on those. I believe Bijstan has an OC'ed E6600, or at least one of the Core 2 Duo range, so should be able to give you an idea what's possible.

28-09-2006, 21:41	#9
killerkebab Vodka Martini Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bristol/Reading Posts: 656	I can't do this tonight but I will get BIOS pictures tomorrow night. Before I leave, however - I found a utility on my Abit disk called 'uGuru', and queried the fans on the PC. Is this data something to worry about? uGuru pic __________________

28-09-2006, 21:44	#10
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Yeah, if that reading's right, and you're running at idle, that CPU temp is far too high. Wouldn't worry about the other two warnings as the software appears to be set to warn at any temperature above 0C.