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Old 11-02-2012, 20:21   #1441
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A -2degs 12miles for me.
I know, it was ccccccccc-cold this morning!
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Old 12-02-2012, 00:05   #1442
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Oi!! Which part of TIME ON YOUR FEET doesn't compute BBx??? Do NOT put yourself under any timing pressures for your long runs. They are aaaaall about getting the distance in your legs, not speed. In fact, set your watch so it just shows distance and nothing else for long runs!!

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It was like the last 2min.... (less probably) that I sprinted not the whole thing!

It was all steady pace..apart from that

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Old 12-02-2012, 00:53   #1443
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I always like to finish reasonable fast, though am trying not to always, especially on speed runs where I've been hitting decent speeds for intervals or a tempo. Saying that I had to yell at a cyclist to move on a steady run today :P

It was -5C with the wind chill a couple of weeks ago, just glad there isn't major snow and I haven't yet had to miss a run.

But then, my longest run since Xmas was 9 miles today
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Old 12-02-2012, 22:08   #1444
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It was like the last two mins!!! 2!!!!

The rest of the run was at a steady pace

Last TWO minutes..or less - did I say that already???



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Old 13-02-2012, 11:13   #1445
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Saturday morning I did a half marathon - just went out and kept going until I hit the distance. Two weeks ago 10-11km was the furthest I'd ever done, then I did 15km last weekend, so quite a feat considering at new years I was doing 6-7km at most, and was knackered! Managed it in 1hr 57mins which I'm fairly pleased with... for now!
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Old 13-02-2012, 15:51   #1446
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Saturday morning I did a half marathon - just went out and kept going until I hit the distance. Two weeks ago 10-11km was the furthest I'd ever done, then I did 15km last weekend, so quite a feat considering at new years I was doing 6-7km at most, and was knackered! Managed it in 1hr 57mins which I'm fairly pleased with... for now!
Great goimg, and good time too! Just be careful not to do too much, I did 13 miles one weekend ans 18 the next last year (was going for 15 and decided to keep going). Felt fine, tired but fine but hit isssues on some runs a few days later that led to major itb problems which took months to sort.

Not saying it was that alone, but in combination with hills and the 3 peaks I feel it may have played a part.

Just imho of course. And well done again, I haven't run 13 miles since the October 2nd cov half! (2:12 btw).
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Old 13-02-2012, 15:59   #1447
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Thanks!

The way my legs ached by the end of Saturday and on Sunday I'll not be doing that distance again for a little while! I know exactly where the tipping point was as well because the 15km last week was fine - legs didn't hurt afterwards. Started to feel exhaustion in the legs about 3km later this time so I think I'll keep it at <18km for the near future until I'm more comfortable at that level.
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Old 13-02-2012, 18:26   #1448
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Well done on the distance Chris. Are you doing cross country runs yet? Definitely need to get some of those in before your Tough Mudder. The diff between road and XC is huge, especially with the type of race you'll be doing.
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Old 13-02-2012, 21:03   #1449
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Thanks!

The way my legs ached by the end of Saturday and on Sunday I'll not be doing that distance again for a little while! I know exactly where the tipping point was as well because the 15km last week was fine - legs didn't hurt afterwards. Started to feel exhaustion in the legs about 3km later this time so I think I'll keep it at <18km for the near future until I'm more comfortable at that level.
Good rule of thumb is increase by 10% a week, obviously thats only a rough rule and some people may be 5% before problems, others more. Also depends on how many you do I guess.

Main thing that I personally think does apply is don't try adding in distance and any type of speed work (including hills).

I spent late October to Xmas getting my distance from 3 miles (9-10/week) to 10 miles (20 a week), since then been working on speed, and now trying to put the two together, but I'm not increasing speed any more just keeping the same sort of sessions but increasing the w/end runs up to 11/12/13/14/15, then two week taper.

Good point from Kate too, huge difference running on different surfaces so try to find something comparable. Softer ground can be easier on the knees but can also be harder work (I think).
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Old 13-02-2012, 23:19   #1450
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Yeah, you're supposed to increase one discipline at a time. So, increase distance but keep pace the same OR increase your pace but keep your distance the same. You're right about the hills too.

Cross country is definitely easier on the knees imo, but harder on everything else (for me anyway). My calves and hips are absolutely wrecked after a long, hilly cross country. I think it's where my current injury started back in November. It is also much much tougher effort-wise too, so with obstacles thrown in it'll be a killer. I run about 1-1 1/2 min per mile slower during cross country races.

I'm photographing a race called "The Beast" in 2 weeks. It's a cross country round a horsey jumping course with obstacles, cammo nets, water etc. thrown in. Love photographing it, but would like to have a go some day. It's a 5 mile course with a "double or quits" option. Looks pretty tough, but it'll be nothing in comparisson to this Tough Mudder they're doing!

Managed 2 miles tonight before my knee felt tight. It actually kicked in at 1.1 miles, but I was being stubborn. Iced and stretched after my run and it's not hurting now, which is a relief. This is SO frustrating I felt great otherwise!
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