Bollocks

[Mark]

I have the photograph to demonstrate this. Will go up tomorrow.

[mejinks]

Originally Posted by Takhisis

I didn't get to have a ride in the hairdryer Although I did ride Will (and was worried about breaking his back )

*jealous*

Good luck with it Matt. If they have responded this quickly, then they have it all automated. No waiting for people to come back after Christmas to catch up.

I would wait 20 days, then send the PACE letter. Giving them the option of 21 days to respond. If they respond with a letter to the effect "your stuffed" then I would take the hit. If they send the NIP again, wait 20 days and send the PACE letter. Eventually, if you can string it out for 6 months, they will likely drop it as they did with me. Twice.

[Feek]

What's the PACE letter?

[mejinks]

Originally Posted by Le Feek

What's the PACE letter?

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=2846

[Pebs]

That is a horrible camera Matt As Nutcase said it's not really all that visible aompared to most. It used to be further back nearer the junction but they moved it down after adding a big junction there.

I got done for 52 in a 30 in April and got 3 points and a £60 fine. I was about 20 yards into a 30 zone and it was in the arse end of nowhere, I was surprised to get off that lightly. Im not sure if they treat ou more harshly if its a fixed camera, mine was a hand held effort.

[Feek]

I'm sorry, I don't normally get annoyed by this sort of thing but reading that stuff about the PACE letter has given me the ache a bit.

The bottom line is that it's trying to find loopholes in the law to get out of a speeding ticket. Lots of fancy words just to do that.

If you know you were speeding, take the hit and try not to do it in the future, or at least not to get caught. Speeding is an absolute offense, there is technically no justification for it.

Don't want the points? Don't do the speed.

I'm not trying to preach here, I speed, we all speed but to go to all the effort that people are on that website seems to me as though it's wasting not only their time, but also by cause and effect it's going to waste police time as well by having to deal with it. A common complaint heard is 'why don't the police stop hassling speeders and catch real criminals' made by someone who's been nicked for speeding and is doing all they can to get out of it and taking up more vaulable police time in the instance!

Take it, forget about it and use the tools you have (I know you have TomTom, so therefore you can have the speed camera warnings) to avoid it happening again.

[Matblack]

Originally Posted by Le Feek

I'm sorry, I don't normally get annoyed by this sort of thing but reading that stuff about the PACE letter has given me the ache a bit.

The bottom line is that it's trying to find loopholes in the law to get out of a speeding ticket. Lots of fancy words just to do that.

If you know you were speeding, take the hit and try not to do it in the future, or at least not to get caught. Speeding is an absolute offense, there is technically no justification for it.

Don't want the points? Don't do the speed.

I'm not trying to preach here, I speed, we all speed but to go to all the effort that people are on that website seems to me as though it's wasting not only their time, but also by cause and effect it's going to waste police time as well by having to deal with it. A common complaint heard is 'why don't the police stop hassling speeders and catch real criminals' made by someone who's been nicked for speeding and is doing all they can to get out of it and taking up more vaulable police time in the instance!

Take it, forget about it and use the tools you have (I know you have TomTom, so therefore you can have the speed camera warnings) to avoid it happening again.

I agree with all that apart from one bit

Originally Posted by Le Feek

taking up more vaulable police time in the instance!

There are no police involved here

MB

[mejinks]

Speeding fines are dealt with by dedicated teams who are civilians.

Be honest though, if there was a way of getting off something, wouldn't you take it?

[Feek]

I don't know. Last time I was done for speeding was for 42 in a 30 and the specific Plod had a reputation that there was no way he'd drop anything once he'd got you stopped.

[Matblack]

Originally Posted by Le Feek

I don't know. Last time I was done for speeding was for 42 in a 30 and the specific Plod had a reputation that there was no way he'd drop anything once he'd got you stopped.

I went to Pepipoo to research my options, basically to see if I could slide out of a speeding ticket, yes I was speeding and yes its terrible and it kills newborn babies and little lambkins.

I'd be happy to pay a fine but I don't want the points it has a nasty effect on insurance although as I have just had the only three points I have ever had on my licence expire for totting it wouldn't be the end of the world. I drive to the current conditions of the road and I drive safely and carefully, I do speed but only when it is safe to do so, that road looked like a 40 to me, it was wide and clear and the conditions were conducive with the speed I was going.

In my opinion I got hit by a cash machine operated by the local government and not by a copper who pulled me because my driving was unsafe.

[Looking at the stats for that camera it has not in the 4 years it has been in place had any effects whatsoever on the accident rate or the severity of accidents on that stretch of road.]

If I got stopped by a copper I would put my hands up and say fair cop and be nice and polite to the guy, I would acknowledge what I had done wrong and pay. I feel differently about speed camera designed specifically to fleese drivers. By doing what I will be doing I will be making this point.

If I just pay up the money will go directly back to the camera partnership (a civvy organisation) if I use the PACE w/s then I will get a conditional offer, at this point I may roll over but if I decide to continue to fight my case the money will not go to the scamera partnership, it will be put in a different pot.

I think you know me well enough Feek that I am not the kind of person who routinely tries to get out of a situation I have put myself in, but when I not only have to pay a set fee and have points on my licence but I will also be paying an increase insurance premium for the next 5 years then I start to think about my options as I think anyone would.

MB