Bollocks

[Will]

Originally Posted by 8 I3ALL

ahhh if you put it like that then thats different

[rich99]

Originally Posted by Le Hoff

There's a difference between speeding and driving too fast.

People crash because they lack education and training.

...or if they aren't paying attention?

Sorry to hear you got caught MB, though if you didn't spot a fixed camera even at the last second I do have to wonder if you would have seen a potential victim? :undecided:

It certainly isn't speed which kills, it just reduces the time you have in which to react - though that's no use if you haven't seen what you are supposed to be reacting to.

I'm a self confessed speeder and have so far been lucky <touches wood> though I'm sure that's just a matter of time - like you I drive to the conditions and the situation but that just so happens to often be a little faster than they'd like

I have to add though that on my trip back from Bristol on the M5 the other night I was at a much lower risk of causing an accident doing well over the speed limit on my own in lane 3 than the pockets of tailgaters in lanes 1 & 2 - however if there were any cameras/plod around I would certainly be the one getting a letter through my door (and that's just silly)

[Matblack]

Originally Posted by rich99

...or if they aren't paying attention?

Sorry to hear you got caught MB, though if you didn't spot a fixed camera even at the last second I do have to wonder if you would have seen a potential victim? :undecided:

Unless they can leapfrog instantly thirty feet between the verge and the middle of the road I think they would have been OK.

MB

[Will]

Originally Posted by rich99

...or if they aren't paying attention?

Not paying attention in my book constitutes to dangerous driving, and would fall under lack of experience and training. Frankly people who don't pay attention - and I spot them everyday (more so on my bike) I keep well clear of. They shouldn't be on the road.

You're driving a 1 tonne killing machine really - you've got to drive with respect.

[kaiowas]

Originally Posted by 8 I3ALL

I had no way of seeing the puddle that i was about to hit with both front wheels

In which case I'd argue that you were still driving too fast for the conditions.

[Feek]

Originally Posted by Matblack

Unless they can leapfrog instantly thirty feet between the verge and the middle of the road I think they would have been OK.

Ahh, but the Police can have strange ideas.

The last time I was stopped for speeding it was just after midnight and I was returning to the office after an event we'd done at the Marks Tey hotel. I was driving through a deserted industrial estate and suddenly I saw a single white headlight appear behind me. I carried on, pulled into the yard and the light came in behind me. I recognised the officer as the one I mentioned earlier, the one who would nick his own grandmother so I knew I was going to get a ticket.

The conversation was roughly as follows.

"Evening"
"Evening"
"Didn't you see me back there?"
"Nope"
"I was by the carpet place"
(Note, the carpet place entrance sits a fair way back from the road"
"No, didn't see you"
"I could have been a small child about to run into the road"
"What, at midnight?"

And the conversation went downhill from there.

[Matblack]

Originally Posted by Le Feek

Ahh, but the Police can have strange ideas.

The last time I was stopped for speeding it was just after midnight and I was returning to the office after an event we'd done at the Marks Tey hotel. I was driving through a deserted industrial estate and suddenly I saw a single white headlight appear behind me. I carried on, pulled into the yard and the light came in behind me. I recognised the officer as the one I mentioned earlier, the one who would nick his own grandmother so I knew I was going to get a ticket.

The conversation was roughly as follows.

"Evening"
"Evening"
"Didn't you see me back there?"
"Nope"
"I was by the carpet place"
(Note, the carpet place entrance sits a fair way back from the road"
"No, didn't see you"
"I could have been a small child about to run into the road"
"What, at midnight?"

And the conversation went downhill from there.

Fixed speed camera ISN'T plod

MB

[Feek]

Didn't say it was

[Matblack]

Look guys despite the fact I reopened this thread I think I have finished with it, please use it as you see fit but I don't think I'll be posting here anymore, it was pretty daft to come and tell people I had broken the law and that I didn't particularly want to pay the price for it, so I think its better if I just leave it alone.

I'll deal with it in my own way, thanks for your input.

MB

[FakeSnake]

Dont worry MB, I loathe fixed camera sites. 2 months ago I was stung by a 'man in a van', 56 in a 40 dual carriage way. I was overtaking a truck, on a long sweeping left hander, one I passed the truck, it was all too late. Didnt really have a leg to stand on. 3pts £60 thanks very much, but it was entirely my own fault.
I have been stopped on several occasions since owning my new car, by traffic cops. Every time was to check I owned the car and had not nicked it!

I like to have a bit of a blatt in the car, but am very wary nowadays, as its SO easy to get into silly speeds just sneezing at the throttle

This year is the year of track days for me, I hope