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View Poll Results: Was Jacko guilty of the child abuse accusations?
Yes, I think he was. 12 27.91%
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Old 28-06-2009, 19:18   #1
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Put it this way, the people that think he's innocent would you let him look after your kid unsupervised for a week?
Somewhat of an unfair question. I wouldn't let anyone I didn't know personally and well (unless they were a professional child carer with references) look after my children (if I had any). So no I wouldn't have, but not because I think he is a child abuser but because I don't know him. I wouldn't let you look after my kids either, purely because I don't know you.
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Old 28-06-2009, 19:23   #2
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^^ This. I don't have any children but it would be my answer if I did. In fact, I'd be seriously concerned for any child whose parents gave any other answer.
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Old 28-06-2009, 19:27   #3
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He's as innocent as OJ was.
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Old 28-06-2009, 19:48   #4
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Not really, because the OP requests your opinion and what lead you to form it. To be able to state as a matter of fact his innocence or guilt would've required the person to have been involved with the legal proceedings in depth, but as those people are in somewhat short supply (and almost certainly not members of this forum) I thought that opinions would be just fine.
Well I like to base my opinion on what I actually know. In this case then I don't know enough (and, in my belief, no one other than those involved know enough) to give a yes or no opinion to the OP.

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I'm still not really sure, though because of the very fact that the justice system is very vulnerable to how much money you can throw at it. Of course that doesn't answer in anyway whether he's guilty or innocent, a pity really because in an ideal world it'd be great to automatically assume true justice always takes place, and then that would be that.
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He's as innocent as OJ was.
And another reason why I refuse to give a yes or no opinion, given the way that money can make anyone innocent then the result of the court case can't convince me either way.

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There's no "wouldn't know until I had all the info in front of me" job.
This is a better description of the option I want. My opinion is that I don't care. However, given enough evidence, from either side, then I would make a judgement based on that.

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Old 28-06-2009, 19:38   #5
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As far as the parents taking the money and running thing, I think everyone has a price, everyone. Another point of view is that those parents have brought the accusations to the media spotlight. They know he's going to have the very very best legal help money can buy. Their children/families face what is probably a very lengthy, very public and very dirty court process. Or they can take $20m dollars. I'd be thinking very very carefully, seriously. There's all kinds of justice, not just the legal kind. Do I think this is what happened.....I have absolutely no idea.

Do I think he's guilty? Is a childlike, naive, misguided adult capable of child abuse. Of course they are. He managed to get married twice and have his own children, he's not all that naive is he.
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Old 28-06-2009, 19:47   #6
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He managed to get married twice and have his own children, he's not all that naive is he.
Those kids don't look a lot like MJ though, do they

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Old 28-06-2009, 19:50   #7
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Somewhat of an unfair question. I wouldn't let anyone I didn't know personally and well (unless they were a professional child carer with references) look after my children (if I had any). So no I wouldn't have, but not because I think he is a child abuser but because I don't know him. I wouldn't let you look after my kids either, purely because I don't know you.
A fair point. You wouldn't want me looking after your kids. I can barely tend to our newborn

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He managed to get married twice and have his own children, he's not all that naive is he.
They ain't his kids, they are as white as I am. I know you get the mix sometime where black people end up having a white child but to have three of them? He may bring them up but I'd bet my house there's no jackson dna in them (From a birth point of view)
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Old 28-06-2009, 20:03   #8
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Whether they're they're made from his boy juice or not, they're his kids.
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Old 28-06-2009, 20:07   #9
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Whether they're they're made from his boy juice or not, they're his kids.
Oh yes I know, I just don't see old Wacko as a sexual being at all and I for some reason I can't imagine him having sexual relations with any one or any thing including children. I suspect that if viewed by totally subjectively then some of his behaviour could have been considered borderline unacceptable, like sharing his bed with children but I don't suspect anything that would not be considered unacceptable with his own children.

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Old 28-06-2009, 20:32   #10
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Other than dangling them off a balcony? Yeah I know I know, not paedo, but wrong all the same!
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