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lostkat · 17-02-2012, 06:21

Bugger, thought you might have started to enjoy it at least a little bit by now

You're doing so well. I don't think I could do it if my heart wasn't in it, so extra kudos to you for doing that. Glad you enjoyed the seminar though. I always find those massively inspiring.

I have already written off Ashby in my mind to be honest. At the moment, I can barely run 3 miles without pain, and then I have to have a rest day because my knee hurts so much afterwards. Ashby is 4 weeks away. My injury is partly the result of being off ill for a month, then trying to do too much when I came back. Cranking up training and doing silly miles, even when I'm better will just take me back to the injury bench again. I really am gutted, but I've got to put up with these knees for another 50-60 years and I want to continue running, so I have no choice but to look after them

It's now a question of whether I can run Windermere in May.

jmc41 · 18-02-2012, 21:29

That's rubbish Kate I feel your pain took me so long to recover

I did my 11 mile injury run today, the same progression I crashed out at 8 miles on with ITBS last Sept. Different route back home, at exactly 8 miles turned and went down.

My chin looks like I've been mugged, elbow bashed, thumb has a bit missing that mwant hand was covered after 3 more miles and left hand in pain, wrist now so bad eating is tricky. On my way to Iceland now for a photo trip.

I did complete run at least this time, actually faster than expected as the other pains were being blocked.

Arghgh.

Jonny69 · 21-02-2012, 17:55

21:33 on last week's Parkrun. Looks like I'm fairly consistent

I'm looking for a 20 on that route though, and eventually a 19. I'm running pretty much on my limit at the moment so I need to look into what I can do to get those times down. I think I can get the 20 just with a change of tactics, but the 19 will need a bit more work. Basically, there's a young girl who runs 20:30s and she's run consistently the two times I've run with her. I've caught her up and passed her on the uphill section both times, but then she is a lot faster on the last half of the second lap and breaks away from me. She also runs off from the line very fast, which I don't tend to do, and she makes quite a big distance, so I've caught her on a long uphill stretch. My change of tactics I think will be to run her race strategy, i.e. stick behind her and copy her pace and see if it helps my times. Essentially I'll have conserved energy on the hills and will have more left for the end.

I'm pretty much the only one who starts off the line quite slowly. Most of the pack runs past me in the first 100m and by the 200m point I've passed a lot of them again. I'm going to have to have a go at the fast starts, but I do know that heading out too fast can kill the run for me as it gets my heartbeat up too high too quickly.

For the 19, I'm not sure what to do because it'll need me to have better cardio and I'm running pretty much on my limit at the moment. I'm not sure if I'm fit enough to pick one of the guys who I know runs 19's and follow him through the race. Any tips on the downhill bits? I really stride them out, so the fast guys must really make some progress on them.

BBx · 22-02-2012, 10:00

So... it was Brighton Half Marathon on Sunday and managed to PB my Marathon time

02:03:11 down from 02:17:50.

There's been a lot of outrage on Runnersworld and all over the news in the South East because the course was longer than 13.1m. My Garmin registered 13.56m but even at 1 or 2 miles said I had gone further... apparently it was the 4.5mile turnaround point which was out. 0.40m out and have adjusted the times on the site accordingly making me 02:00:14 :/ but I don't see how that is accurate.

Anyway I wasn't running for speed... its just annoying and I will probably do another half after the marathon and train for speed for it to make it sub 2hours

Anyway was a good race.. if a bit boring... yes the seafront in the sunshine was beautiful (had a great day for it!) but I am glad I am not doing the Brighton Marathon as I think I willl need the sightseeing aspect of the London to get me round.

So... Ashby 20miles next. Am gutted am not running with Coach

- Kate can you advise on what I should be doing long run wise up to that with a taper? Need to plan my weekend runs mainly as I have said earlier booking out 3 hours of my day is the hardest part! Plus reverse tapering suggestions would be good

:

25th - 26th: This weekend is free so can do anything - will probably long run on Sat
3rd - 4th: In Ireland but am planning on getting a run in - probably Sunday
10th - 11th: At a party up north

perhaps you could tell me a good run to do - if anything?
17th -18th: RACE DAY!

I am thinking that I should do 16miles this weekend (longest run so far 15.5/16m), then 18miles on the 4th but I will be in Ireland and not sure if am going to be able to spare 3 hours and I will probably get lost in the process!!!

What do you think?

BB x

Jonny69 · 22-02-2012, 12:56

Did a gentle 6k on an empty stomach and no water on the way home last night. Destroyed me. Glad I opted out of the 13.5k route

jmc41 · 22-02-2012, 20:58

I've read most courses are a little long as they measure straight lines so you always do a little more. Pretty much planning on doing at least .2 miles more at Reading.

Either way that's a decent time especially without a taper remember!

Kate can advise better I'm sure but whatever you do be careful if it's an odd course. If you are used to 16 miles on flat roads don't do 16 miles on hilly countryside! Hills make a massive difference and parts of ireland are rather steep (and wet and windy).

Hope it was just a one-off Jonny, I've done mid range runs without sufficient water and it's not fun

lostkat · 22-02-2012, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBx

So... it was Brighton Half Marathon on Sunday and managed to PB my Marathon time

02:03:11 down from 02:17:50.

There's been a lot of outrage on Runnersworld and all over the news in the South East because the course was longer than 13.1m. My Garmin registered 13.56m but even at 1 or 2 miles said I had gone further... apparently it was the 4.5mile turnaround point which was out. 0.40m out and have adjusted the times on the site accordingly making me 02:00:14 :/ but I don't see how that is accurate.

Anyway I wasn't running for speed... its just annoying and I will probably do another half after the marathon and train for speed for it to make it sub 2hours

Anyway was a good race.. if a bit boring... yes the seafront in the sunshine was beautiful (had a great day for it!) but I am glad I am not doing the Brighton Marathon as I think I willl need the sightseeing aspect of the London to get me round.

So... Ashby 20miles next. Am gutted am not running with Coach

- Kate can you advise on what I should be doing long run wise up to that with a taper? Need to plan my weekend runs mainly as I have said earlier booking out 3 hours of my day is the hardest part! Plus reverse tapering suggestions would be good

:

25th - 26th: This weekend is free so can do anything - will probably long run on Sat
3rd - 4th: In Ireland but am planning on getting a run in - probably Sunday
10th - 11th: At a party up north

perhaps you could tell me a good run to do - if anything?
17th -18th: RACE DAY!

I am thinking that I should do 16miles this weekend (longest run so far 15.5/16m), then 18miles on the 4th but I will be in Ireland and not sure if am going to be able to spare 3 hours and I will probably get lost in the process!!!

What do you think?

BB x

OK, first all you need to make sure that you do some runs involving hills, as Ashby is not a flat race. It's not mountainous, just undulating. Be prepared for hills, that's all.

Ideally, I'd want you to do 16.5 this weekend and 18ish next weekend, but it's not going to happen so there's no point planning for it. A 2 week taper will be fine

You're right on track!

If your longest run is 15.5, I would push for 17 this weekend if you can. It just takes the pressure off having to run a long way next weekend in a place you're not used to.

It would be good to get a long run in next weekend too, but drop it to 12ish miles if you can find a route. You could do loops so you're not too far from home. Boring, but necessary I suppose.

The following weekend, we'll do 9-10 miles with some hills thrown in and we'll do it at 10am on the Sunday morning... Haha JOKE!! We'll go out pre-partay

Depending upon my knee, I'll either run with you or come on my bike. It'll be a very pretty countryside run, I promise

I'm in two minds of whether to take you round some of the course or not. Don't want to scare you!! Haha

Really desperately wish I was running it too, but we will be supporting you ALL the way round and I want to try and run the last bit with you if I can (don't want you disqualified!!) just up to the gates of the park where you finish.

P.S. Pasta for tea on Friday night then

Jonny69 · 23-02-2012, 19:35

Ye gads. Ran home from Bromley which is down the valley boyo then back up again. Rucksack on back with 5kg of laptop and books. Whatever the muscle is that you use to lift your foot up is absolutely demolished! (the one you usually do-in when you kick a football around)

divine · 23-02-2012, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBx

though unfortunately the more running I do, the more I dislike it. Its not the sport for me

Its soooo much harder doing the training when you are doing something you don't enjoy.

I WANT to enjoy it but I don't. I guess its just one of those things.

I'm feeling exactly the same, i'm forcing myself to do it at the moment but I will sure as hell be glad when i've got this charity event out the way.

Despite my best efforts, I don't think i'm going to manage to run the full 10k, I suspect i'll be walking a fair amount. The furthest i've managed to date is 6k (which took me 39 mins).

I'm finding it incredibly hard to push myself doing long runs though, as on top of feeling out of breath and the rest, I just don't really have any desire to be doing it in the first place

jmc41 · 23-02-2012, 22:52

I too had a terrible run tonight, 8 miles, 6 of which was a tempo run above 10k pace, but legs were mega tired for the whole lot, knees ached like anything and stomach felt like a horse had kicked me. So much for avoiding the curry at lunch, had a pasta salad instead

I guess I'm on track baring injury, but think I might scale it back a bit after Reading. Run before this was Tuesday evening after 22h sleep in 4 days and a 3 hour car trip (I was driving), really didn't want to go out but felt I needed to stay on track.

17-02-2012, 06:21	#1461
lostkat Good Cat Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,550	Bugger, thought you might have started to enjoy it at least a little bit by now You're doing so well. I don't think I could do it if my heart wasn't in it, so extra kudos to you for doing that. Glad you enjoyed the seminar though. I always find those massively inspiring. I have already written off Ashby in my mind to be honest. At the moment, I can barely run 3 miles without pain, and then I have to have a rest day because my knee hurts so much afterwards. Ashby is 4 weeks away. My injury is partly the result of being off ill for a month, then trying to do too much when I came back. Cranking up training and doing silly miles, even when I'm better will just take me back to the injury bench again. I really am gutted, but I've got to put up with these knees for another 50-60 years and I want to continue running, so I have no choice but to look after them It's now a question of whether I can run Windermere in May. __________________ Oooooh Cecil, what have you done?

21-02-2012, 17:55	#1463
Jonny69 Noob Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Socialist Republik of Kent Posts: 5,032	21:33 on last week's Parkrun. Looks like I'm fairly consistent I'm looking for a 20 on that route though, and eventually a 19. I'm running pretty much on my limit at the moment so I need to look into what I can do to get those times down. I think I can get the 20 just with a change of tactics, but the 19 will need a bit more work. Basically, there's a young girl who runs 20:30s and she's run consistently the two times I've run with her. I've caught her up and passed her on the uphill section both times, but then she is a lot faster on the last half of the second lap and breaks away from me. She also runs off from the line very fast, which I don't tend to do, and she makes quite a big distance, so I've caught her on a long uphill stretch. My change of tactics I think will be to run her race strategy, i.e. stick behind her and copy her pace and see if it helps my times. Essentially I'll have conserved energy on the hills and will have more left for the end. I'm pretty much the only one who starts off the line quite slowly. Most of the pack runs past me in the first 100m and by the 200m point I've passed a lot of them again. I'm going to have to have a go at the fast starts, but I do know that heading out too fast can kill the run for me as it gets my heartbeat up too high too quickly. For the 19, I'm not sure what to do because it'll need me to have better cardio and I'm running pretty much on my limit at the moment. I'm not sure if I'm fit enough to pick one of the guys who I know runs 19's and follow him through the race. Any tips on the downhill bits? I really stride them out, so the fast guys must really make some progress on them. __________________

22-02-2012, 12:56	#1465
Jonny69 Noob Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Socialist Republik of Kent Posts: 5,032	Did a gentle 6k on an empty stomach and no water on the way home last night. Destroyed me. Glad I opted out of the 13.5k route __________________

23-02-2012, 19:35	#1468
Jonny69 Noob Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Socialist Republik of Kent Posts: 5,032	Ye gads. Ran home from Bromley which is down the valley boyo then back up again. Rucksack on back with 5kg of laptop and books. Whatever the muscle is that you use to lift your foot up is absolutely demolished! (the one you usually do-in when you kick a football around) __________________

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18-02-2012, 21:29	#1462
jmc41 Absinthe Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,070	That's rubbish Kate I feel your pain took me so long to recover I did my 11 mile injury run today, the same progression I crashed out at 8 miles on with ITBS last Sept. Different route back home, at exactly 8 miles turned and went down. My chin looks like I've been mugged, elbow bashed, thumb has a bit missing that mwant hand was covered after 3 more miles and left hand in pain, wrist now so bad eating is tricky. On my way to Iceland now for a photo trip. I did complete run at least this time, actually faster than expected as the other pains were being blocked. Arghgh.

22-02-2012, 10:00	#1464
BBx Reverse SuBo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 8,673	So... it was Brighton Half Marathon on Sunday and managed to PB my Marathon time 02:03:11 down from 02:17:50. There's been a lot of outrage on Runnersworld and all over the news in the South East because the course was longer than 13.1m. My Garmin registered 13.56m but even at 1 or 2 miles said I had gone further... apparently it was the 4.5mile turnaround point which was out. 0.40m out and have adjusted the times on the site accordingly making me 02:00:14 :/ but I don't see how that is accurate. Anyway I wasn't running for speed... its just annoying and I will probably do another half after the marathon and train for speed for it to make it sub 2hours Anyway was a good race.. if a bit boring... yes the seafront in the sunshine was beautiful (had a great day for it!) but I am glad I am not doing the Brighton Marathon as I think I willl need the sightseeing aspect of the London to get me round. So... Ashby 20miles next. Am gutted am not running with Coach - Kate can you advise on what I should be doing long run wise up to that with a taper? Need to plan my weekend runs mainly as I have said earlier booking out 3 hours of my day is the hardest part! Plus reverse tapering suggestions would be good : 25th - 26th: This weekend is free so can do anything - will probably long run on Sat 3rd - 4th: In Ireland but am planning on getting a run in - probably Sunday 10th - 11th: At a party up north perhaps you could tell me a good run to do - if anything? 17th -18th: RACE DAY! I am thinking that I should do 16miles this weekend (longest run so far 15.5/16m), then 18miles on the 4th but I will be in Ireland and not sure if am going to be able to spare 3 hours and I will probably get lost in the process!!! What do you think? BB x

22-02-2012, 20:58	#1466
jmc41 Absinthe Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,070	I've read most courses are a little long as they measure straight lines so you always do a little more. Pretty much planning on doing at least .2 miles more at Reading. Either way that's a decent time especially without a taper remember! Kate can advise better I'm sure but whatever you do be careful if it's an odd course. If you are used to 16 miles on flat roads don't do 16 miles on hilly countryside! Hills make a massive difference and parts of ireland are rather steep (and wet and windy). Hope it was just a one-off Jonny, I've done mid range runs without sufficient water and it's not fun

23-02-2012, 22:52	#1470
jmc41 Absinthe Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,070	I too had a terrible run tonight, 8 miles, 6 of which was a tempo run above 10k pace, but legs were mega tired for the whole lot, knees ached like anything and stomach felt like a horse had kicked me. So much for avoiding the curry at lunch, had a pasta salad instead I guess I'm on track baring injury, but think I might scale it back a bit after Reading. Run before this was Tuesday evening after 22h sleep in 4 days and a 3 hour car trip (I was driving), really didn't want to go out but felt I needed to stay on track.