Boat Drinks Virtual Election

[Pumpkinstew]

Originally Posted by Dymetrie

And there's the carrot....

... but on the other hand you can forget about immigration amnesties, closer ties with Europe or trying to knock Trident on the head.


So there's the decision Clegg has to make.
- Assist a beaten government to limp on for another 5 years with a few other minority parties and piss off a big chunk of the electorate,
- sell their souls for a slice of the Tory 'Big Society' pie and hope not too much of the slime gets stuck to the party in the process
- or leave the UK with a minority government, vote only with the Tory policies they can swallow and be accused of hamstringing parliament at a time when decisive action was required on a number of issues

Don't envy him at all. Damned if you do, damned if you don't...

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Matblack

So it's OK that a party who get 6.1% more of the vote get 5x as many seats? That's not sour grapes, it's common sense, its also an issue which member of all three parties main are raising.

I wasn't expecting the LDs to win, if you think I'm upset because they haven't then you are sorely mistaken.

MB

Didn't say it was either right or wrong - it is what it is. I also don't think anyone was expecting the LDs to win - which is a problem in itself.

I do however think that this issue has been raised after every election since I don't know when. I'd wager that even if we did have a PR-based system, someone would feel hard done by and complain.

None of this is to say we shouldn't debate the electoral system as a whole. It's clearly broken - and in more ways than just the FPtP system.

[Stan_Lite]

Originally Posted by Matblack

Ahhhhhh, the British electoral system.

If a vote was actually worth a vote then the Lib Dems would be in the running, if the Lib Dems were in the running, all the people who want to vote Lib Dem but won't because they 'can't win' might vote Lib Dem in which case the country would be a very different place.

MB

Again, you pluck the thoughts out of my head. I was going to post exactly the same earlier. If 23% of the electorate voted for them knowing they couldn't form a government, I wonder how many more would vote for them if they thought they could???

I don't see where sour grapes comes into it Mark. A system which actively encourages tactical voting instead of voting for the party of preference is deeply flawed and needs to be changed. I don't see why we should "have to deal with it", we shouldn't have to deal with it at all, we should take the opportunity to change it for a fairer system that represents the will of the people.

[Mark]

We have to deal with it today - I'm only concerned with today at the moment. What happens next time is - for the moment at least - a matter for the politicians and their behind-closed-doors discussions.

It just bothers me that this debate seems to happen on every election results day and spends most of the rest of the time in the wilderness. If it's so broken, why does it take an election for everyone to demand it gets changed? Will everyone still be making that demand in a month?

[Von Smallhausen]

Jaqui Smith out !



More valium please .......

[Mark]

I had a feeling you might appreciate that.

[Del Lardo]

Originally Posted by Stan_Lite

Again, you pluck the thoughts out of my head. I was going to post exactly the same earlier. If 23% of the electorate voted for them knowing they couldn't form a government, I wonder how many more would vote for them if they thought they could???

and by the same argument how many Conservative/Labour supporters didn't bother to vote because they didn't perceive Lib Dems to be a threat?

[Del Lardo]

Originally Posted by Von Smallhausen

Jaqui Smith out !


More valium please .......

There was a nice shot of her choking up following the announcement that she had lost her seat. Made my day, corrupt, incapable bitch troll.

No doubt she'll cheer herself up by popping round to her sisters house to watch a porno

[Matblack]

Originally Posted by Mark

We have to deal with it today - I'm only concerned with today at the moment. What happens next time is - for the moment at least - a matter for the politicians and their behind-closed-doors discussions.

It just bothers me that this debate seems to happen on every election results day and spends most of the rest of the time in the wilderness. If it's so broken, why does it take an election for everyone to demand it gets changed? Will everyone still be making that demand in a month?

Errrr

Because the party who just won, just won under the current system? What incentive do a ruling majority have to change a system which just got them elected?

Am I being thick here?

MB

[Jonny69]

We should have a 3-way voting system like the French used to do it, loaded in favour of the rich. Then the poor always get outvoted and don't have a say.

Revolt? Kill them all.