Cannon Fodder - Page 2

Mark · 08-02-2007, 10:11

That's a sight to behold.

Hope you aren't going to leave though. At least some of us appreciate your contribution and not all of us bash the USA for the hell of it (GWB excepted).

Von Smallhausen · 08-02-2007, 14:15

I have my reservations about George Bush and the forign policy of the United States as I also have reservations about the same of Tony Blair and the foreign policy of th United Kingdom.

The US military machine is the most awesome on Earth and one US supercarrier alone weighs more than our HMS' Ark Royal, Invincible and Illustrious aircraft carriers' put together. The technology they have is equally awesome but with that technology and the United Kingdom being it's closest ally then surely a transponder / recognition system can be devised to stop such incidents ?

To die at the hands of friendly fire is just tragic beyond comprehension.

The United States as a whole though, I have had two fantastic holidays there and have visited New York, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Yosemite National Park, Death Valley and San Francisco and it remains the most fascinating place I have ever been and the people were just fantastic. I hope to get there again someday.

Darrin · 08-02-2007, 14:46

Please don't get me wrong, if it's needed, I'll be the first to step up to the plate and bash the **** out of my own government. When it's needed.

But there are times that a lot of people take it too far and under the wrong circumstances.

I have been and always will be the champion of the underdog. I will fight tooth and nail against popular opinion if I know I'm right. But God help you if I'm fighting for you and you bite me in the ass.

Hence why I wasn't all that vocal on the subject until after Matblack posted that link with the cockpit transcript. I didn't have enough info to formulate an argument or even an opinion on it until then. But that transcript is rather damning of the ATC's and pretty much frees the pilots of any wrongdoing. They did thier job, they did it well. Disappointingly they did it on L/Cpl Hull's vehicle. Not out of malice or improper training, but due to poor intel (which there's a high chance of happening in that area).

Gotta' go, be back in a couple hours.

Robert · 08-02-2007, 18:03

The US are trialing SOCOM now aren't they?

Von Smallhausen · 08-02-2007, 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert

The US are trialing SOCOM now aren't they?

Can you be more specific ?

SOCOM has a few meanings wthin the US military.

Desmo · 09-02-2007, 12:15

Did you see the report about this on the news last night? They interviewed a friend of the pilot and I'm expecting him to come on and stick up for the guy (who I think is pretty much blameless). Not only does he do this, he then starts slagging us off

Tells us that we should just do what we're told. Started going on about WW2 and how we should have taken our thumbs out of our mouths and done something about it. I was ****ing fuming.

****.

Justsomebloke · 09-02-2007, 12:30

There are ignorant people all round the world mate it is not just confined to English forums

To be honest i live by the fact that 98% are ignorant head up there arse kind of people. In my 41 years i have met about 1 in a hundred sensible people, the rest are either retarded, ignorant or just plain stupid.

Desmo · 09-02-2007, 12:42

I know there are ignorant people about mate. But if I'm trying to convince another country that my country's pilot is blameless, I'd try not to insult them whilst doing it

Darrin · 09-02-2007, 17:32

May I be the first to apologise for my ignorant arse of a countryman? *hangs head in shame*

Desmo · 09-02-2007, 17:50

No need to apologise mate. There are idiots everywhere, we have plenty

08-02-2007, 14:15	#12
Von Smallhausen I'm Free Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tyneside Posts: 3,061	I have my reservations about George Bush and the forign policy of the United States as I also have reservations about the same of Tony Blair and the foreign policy of th United Kingdom. The US military machine is the most awesome on Earth and one US supercarrier alone weighs more than our HMS' Ark Royal, Invincible and Illustrious aircraft carriers' put together. The technology they have is equally awesome but with that technology and the United Kingdom being it's closest ally then surely a transponder / recognition system can be devised to stop such incidents ? To die at the hands of friendly fire is just tragic beyond comprehension. The United States as a whole though, I have had two fantastic holidays there and have visited New York, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Yosemite National Park, Death Valley and San Francisco and it remains the most fascinating place I have ever been and the people were just fantastic. I hope to get there again someday. __________________ " Well, old bean, life is really so bloody awful that I feel it’s my absolute duty to be chirpy and try and make everybody else happy too." David Niven, 1910-1983.

08-02-2007, 14:46	#13
Darrin Dirteh Kitteh Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hiding out in Mormon Country Posts: 1,629	Please don't get me wrong, if it's needed, I'll be the first to step up to the plate and bash the **** out of my own government. When it's needed. But there are times that a lot of people take it too far and under the wrong circumstances. I have been and always will be the champion of the underdog. I will fight tooth and nail against popular opinion if I know I'm right. But God help you if I'm fighting for you and you bite me in the ass. Hence why I wasn't all that vocal on the subject until after Matblack posted that link with the cockpit transcript. I didn't have enough info to formulate an argument or even an opinion on it until then. But that transcript is rather damning of the ATC's and pretty much frees the pilots of any wrongdoing. They did thier job, they did it well. Disappointingly they did it on L/Cpl Hull's vehicle. Not out of malice or improper training, but due to poor intel (which there's a high chance of happening in that area). Gotta' go, be back in a couple hours. __________________ A bullet may have your name on it, but shrapnel is addressed "to whom it may concern".

09-02-2007, 12:15	#16
Desmo The Last Airbender Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pigmopad Posts: 11,915	Did you see the report about this on the news last night? They interviewed a friend of the pilot and I'm expecting him to come on and stick up for the guy (who I think is pretty much blameless). Not only does he do this, he then starts slagging us off Tells us that we should just do what we're told. Started going on about WW2 and how we should have taken our thumbs out of our mouths and done something about it. I was **ing fuming. **. __________________

09-02-2007, 12:30	#17
Justsomebloke The Night Worker Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,228	There are ignorant people all round the world mate it is not just confined to English forums To be honest i live by the fact that 98% are ignorant head up there arse kind of people. In my 41 years i have met about 1 in a hundred sensible people, the rest are either retarded, ignorant or just plain stupid. __________________

09-02-2007, 12:42	#18
Desmo The Last Airbender Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pigmopad Posts: 11,915	I know there are ignorant people about mate. But if I'm trying to convince another country that my country's pilot is blameless, I'd try not to insult them whilst doing it __________________

08-02-2007, 10:11	#11
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	That's a sight to behold. Hope you aren't going to leave though. At least some of us appreciate your contribution and not all of us bash the USA for the hell of it (GWB excepted).

08-02-2007, 18:03	#14
Robert Chump!!! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North West Posts: 993	The US are trialing SOCOM now aren't they?

09-02-2007, 17:32	#19
Darrin Dirteh Kitteh Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hiding out in Mormon Country Posts: 1,629	May I be the first to apologise for my ignorant arse of a countryman? hangs head in shame __________________ A bullet may have your name on it, but shrapnel is addressed "to whom it may concern".

09-02-2007, 17:50	#20
Desmo The Last Airbender Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pigmopad Posts: 11,915	No need to apologise mate. There are idiots everywhere, we have plenty __________________

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