Pass within a week - Page 2

Garp · 12-02-2007, 14:09

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Originally Posted by DRZ

To me the solution seems quite simple - if you only want premium drivers on the road, only allow premium drivers to pass the driving test. Nothing to do with the number or regularity of lessons and everything to do with how hard the test is.

Gotta agree with this.

I reckon anyone could learn to pass the test, but that does absolutely nothing to teach them about all the important stuff like instictively observing other vehicles and situations developing ahead, stuff that only comes through regular driving experience; and does nothing to make you a good safe driver. You just can't get that in a week and actually be a 'safe' driver. I would say that week long intensive courses are great for those needing to brush up on their skills in the run up to a driving test, or the like, and should only ever have been done alongside ordinary lessons, either before or after. I think I'd probably agree with MB about it being okay like in Aitch's situation where she's had lessons before. Though I would say there were a number of driving instructors around Haywards Heath which ran out-of-hours driving lessons. Most of mine were done that way, and given I started in November I basically spent quite a few months learning to drive in the dark. Maybe thats why feel most comfortable driving in the dark, whereas most people seem to be the other way around?

BBx · 12-02-2007, 14:23

I'm sure its just a marketing ploy anyway. There is no way that they can pass every student that comes their way.

I don't know what intensive lessons include but 8 hours a day concentrating and learning stuff is enough to drive (fnar) you crazy.

Is the test booked for the following week? If not than the intensiveness is broken down :/ surely something like this has to be absorbed knowledge? I dunno, I go on day course about excel and forget it the next week.

I think they are probably better for the other people who have tried a batch of lessons first.

BB x

Desmo · 12-02-2007, 14:35

It's a fair point DRZ. A tougher test would be better, but there's just something about the intensive "pass in a week" thing that I don't like, even though I did it for my bike lessons. Maybe it's that experience that told me they're not enough.

Zirax · 12-02-2007, 15:19

I can't agree with this at all, as BB touched on, there is simply the concentration span. If you aren't used to it, concentrating that long on the road will be a problem.

Now I can drive for about 3.5hrs and then I need to stop. That is after doing motorway driving for a few years. I do try and have a break every 2.5hrs ish if its a long drive.

mejinks · 12-02-2007, 21:25

When I was teaching Becky to drive she announced that I had better be good because the pass rate for the test centre she was going to was 35%. I think the national average is less than 50% pass rate so when she failed, it was for stupid reasons that the examiner couldn't/wouldn't explain. Then when I sat in the car with her on the back seat, I watched the examiner pass her with no minors at all. This was the third test, so I can't comment on how suddenly she "improved" without having any more lessons.

Blackstar · 13-02-2007, 00:06

Having only passed 6 months ago, i can honestly say that EVERYTHING, including the smallest weirdest things you would never expect change after you pass your test.
I don't think i would be comfortable going off on my own after only a week of learning. Especially because i was only able to learn during lessons, as i couldn't go out in the car with mum or dad.
So i don't think "pass in a week" is a good idea, my older sister wants to do one of these courses and i'm trying to talk her out of it, not because i'd be utterly terrified of her being legally allowed on the road but because i don't think it is the best way to learn. It's just cramming for an exam, which can be passed just by having a good day.

Jonny69 · 13-02-2007, 19:59

The CBT is another classic. 17 year old, never been on the road before, 4 hours on a CBT and half an hour on the open road and then he's free to jump on a 125cc bike which lets face it feels bloody fast when you first ride it and is faster than many cars on the road.

Lopez · 20-02-2007, 20:45

Yep, a 4-stroke 125 is easily as quick as say, a 2.0 DOHC Sierra to 60.

My CBT was over by lunchtime, but then I could physically control a bike already and it was 1 to 1 - not many people do the CBT in December apparently

12-02-2007, 14:35	#13
Desmo The Last Airbender Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pigmopad Posts: 11,915	It's a fair point DRZ. A tougher test would be better, but there's just something about the intensive "pass in a week" thing that I don't like, even though I did it for my bike lessons. Maybe it's that experience that told me they're not enough. __________________

13-02-2007, 00:06	#16
Blackstar Ambassador of Awesome Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Edinburger Posts: 3,676	Having only passed 6 months ago, i can honestly say that EVERYTHING, including the smallest weirdest things you would never expect change after you pass your test. I don't think i would be comfortable going off on my own after only a week of learning. Especially because i was only able to learn during lessons, as i couldn't go out in the car with mum or dad. So i don't think "pass in a week" is a good idea, my older sister wants to do one of these courses and i'm trying to talk her out of it, not because i'd be utterly terrified of her being legally allowed on the road but because i don't think it is the best way to learn. It's just cramming for an exam, which can be passed just by having a good day. __________________ Jim Garrahy's Fudge Kitchen

13-02-2007, 19:59	#17
Jonny69 Noob Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Socialist Republik of Kent Posts: 5,032	The CBT is another classic. 17 year old, never been on the road before, 4 hours on a CBT and half an hour on the open road and then he's free to jump on a 125cc bike which lets face it feels bloody fast when you first ride it and is faster than many cars on the road. __________________

20-02-2007, 20:45	#18
Lopez Bad Cat Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 808	Yep, a 4-stroke 125 is easily as quick as say, a 2.0 DOHC Sierra to 60. My CBT was over by lunchtime, but then I could physically control a bike already and it was 1 to 1 - not many people do the CBT in December apparently __________________ NO

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12-02-2007, 14:23	#12
BBx Reverse SuBo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 8,673	I'm sure its just a marketing ploy anyway. There is no way that they can pass every student that comes their way. I don't know what intensive lessons include but 8 hours a day concentrating and learning stuff is enough to drive (fnar) you crazy. Is the test booked for the following week? If not than the intensiveness is broken down :/ surely something like this has to be absorbed knowledge? I dunno, I go on day course about excel and forget it the next week. I think they are probably better for the other people who have tried a batch of lessons first. BB x

12-02-2007, 15:19	#14
Zirax Goes up to 11! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,577	I can't agree with this at all, as BB touched on, there is simply the concentration span. If you aren't used to it, concentrating that long on the road will be a problem. Now I can drive for about 3.5hrs and then I need to stop. That is after doing motorway driving for a few years. I do try and have a break every 2.5hrs ish if its a long drive.