A word of caution - Page 2

Daz · 26-06-2007, 11:30

killerkebab · 26-06-2007, 11:57

I don't have extreme protection on mine, in fact I think I disabled WEP/WPA - and simply decided not to broadcast the network name. When I set encryption, one of my PCs couldn't connect to the network any more...

Daz · 26-06-2007, 11:59

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Originally Posted by killerkebab

and simply decided not to broadcast the network name.

An utterly meaningless option KK, it inconveniences yourself for no security gain what so ever.

Robert · 26-06-2007, 12:23

I have WPA (do have WPA 2 but 360 won't work with it)

Bind IP to MAC

And have it set to strict bind along with a wireless security option (add mac to station list and only allow access to then).

Obviously is someone wants in they can...but hopefully it'll stop 99.9% of would be hackers.

killerkebab · 26-06-2007, 15:50

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Originally Posted by Daz

An utterly meaningless option KK, it inconveniences yourself for no security gain what so ever.

Would it be correct for me to assume that if someone were to gain access to my wireless network, they could do so without my knowledge?

Or will the 'intruder' always appear in the wireless connections list of the router?

Daz · 26-06-2007, 15:53

Short answer yes, long answer depends on the router. It the majority of cases yes, any wireless clients will be reported by your router.

And yes to the first one, anybody could be using your network at the moment, as you lack the basic deterrents of encryption and/or access control by MAC address.

jmc41 · 04-07-2007, 21:08

Took me bloody ages to setup WPA. It kept booting my out but eventually managed to get it.

Still not 100% convinced it was the dodgy housemate who got caught uploading a file the MPAA was tracking at 6am but at least it's hopefully stopped him being a plonker.

Even if he has used 25% of our network allowance in 4 days.

When I get my own place I'm definitely going back to wired.

Will · 04-07-2007, 21:45

I've gone off wireless. Wires FTW.

I've cracked a few APs in the past when in hotels and so on - just leave the laptop on for a bit, get enough packets, crack the key, sniff the network for extra info (IP addresses etc...) and bob's you're uncle really (this is using Linux and some crafty tools you can get from it's packages) but you can do it in windows too you just have to download the right software. You only need a certain amount of data to be able to retrieve the key. WPA is only marginally safer really. As Jarp says, WiFi is insecure end-of.

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killerkebab Vodka Martini Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bristol/Reading Posts: 656	I don't have extreme protection on mine, in fact I think I disabled WEP/WPA - and simply decided not to broadcast the network name. When I set encryption, one of my PCs couldn't connect to the network any more... __________________

26-06-2007, 15:53	#16
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	Short answer yes, long answer depends on the router. It the majority of cases yes, any wireless clients will be reported by your router. And yes to the first one, anybody could be using your network at the moment, as you lack the basic deterrents of encryption and/or access control by MAC address. __________________ apt-get moo

04-07-2007, 21:45	#18
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	I've gone off wireless. Wires FTW. I've cracked a few APs in the past when in hotels and so on - just leave the laptop on for a bit, get enough packets, crack the key, sniff the network for extra info (IP addresses etc...) and bob's you're uncle really (this is using Linux and some crafty tools you can get from it's packages) but you can do it in windows too you just have to download the right software. You only need a certain amount of data to be able to retrieve the key. WPA is only marginally safer really. As Jarp says, WiFi is insecure end-of. __________________ *No No!*

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26-06-2007, 12:23	#14
Robert Chump!!! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North West Posts: 993	I have WPA (do have WPA 2 but 360 won't work with it) Bind IP to MAC And have it set to strict bind along with a wireless security option (add mac to station list and only allow access to then). Obviously is someone wants in they can...but hopefully it'll stop 99.9% of would be hackers.

04-07-2007, 21:08	#17
jmc41 Absinthe Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,070	Took me bloody ages to setup WPA. It kept booting my out but eventually managed to get it. Still not 100% convinced it was the dodgy housemate who got caught uploading a file the MPAA was tracking at 6am but at least it's hopefully stopped him being a plonker. Even if he has used 25% of our network allowance in 4 days. When I get my own place I'm definitely going back to wired.