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Old 13-01-2008, 20:18   #11
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So people refuse to donate their organs, but what if they needed a transplant one day?

I carry a donor card and have stated any part of my body is to be used after I die. I dont see the problem, if you're dead, what else are you going to use your organs for? Nor should it be up to the families to go against your wishes, its not their call.

Sorry that sounded a little blunt, just my opinion.
I think as blunt as it is it's quite right. However I still stand by my point of wanting to help people that genuinely need it, like kids and good healthy people - not to someone who has no regard or care about the gift of life they have been given.
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Old 13-01-2008, 23:33   #12
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Will, my understanding of the donor waiting list is that kids and people who live heathily go high up the list and people who abuse their body like smokers or alcoholics will go lower down. I think how close to death the patient is is also taken into account but I'm not sure how much weight that has.
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Old 13-01-2008, 23:39   #13
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I don't understand why people are so against changing the bill... If you REALLY don't want to donate organs, then after the law is changed and you feel so strong opt out? Easy? If you're impartial but too lazy to say yes (me really), then you're good to be chopped up. Although i don't understand why people wouldn't want to donate, i don't really care enough as long as all the impartial people contribute...
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Old 13-01-2008, 23:40   #14
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Quite right Will, I would be very annoyed (even though Id be dead ) if my organs went to an alchoholic or a heroin addict or something, they've done nothing to deserve my organs. I am sure the family I leave behind would have something to say about that as well
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Old 13-01-2008, 23:49   #15
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Will, my understanding of the donor waiting list is that kids and people who live heathily go high up the list and people who abuse their body like smokers or alcoholics will go lower down. I think how close to death the patient is is also taken into account but I'm not sure how much weight that has.
I was sure it would be something like that - I was just stipulating my only "issue" (even though it is a non issue).

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Quite right Will, I would be very annoyed (even though Id be dead ) if my organs went to an alchoholic or a heroin addict or something, they've done nothing to deserve my organs. I am sure the family I leave behind would have something to say about that as well
I wouldn't mind either, if I was dead, I just hope there's enough left of my body or that I don't die of some ****ty disease which makes them unuseable.
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I don't understand why people are so against changing the bill... If you REALLY don't want to donate organs, then after the law is changed and you feel so strong opt out? Easy? If you're impartial but too lazy to say yes (me really), then you're good to be chopped up. Although i don't understand why people wouldn't want to donate, i don't really care enough as long as all the impartial people contribute...
I'm not against the bill at all, if I have to opt out then I will.
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Old 14-01-2008, 00:20   #17
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I wouldn't mind either, if I was dead, I just hope there's enough left of my body or that I don't die of some ****ty disease which makes them unuseable.

Or the terminal disease the occasional skydiver perishes of....


Sorry, had to throw that one in there.
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Old 14-01-2008, 00:27   #18
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Quite right Will, I would be very annoyed (even though Id be dead ) if my organs went to an alchoholic or a heroin addict or something, they've done nothing to deserve my organs. I am sure the family I leave behind would have something to say about that as well
I'm pretty sure that you can't stipulate who your organs go to.
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Old 14-01-2008, 00:29   #19
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as far as i can see it there is no real excuse for opting out of donation - every reason i can think of is selfish (this, however, doesn't mean that i don't want people to be able to opt out - it's all personal choice)
and as has been suggested earlier - if you opt out of donating - you should also be opted out of receiving
but could this really ever be the case?
even if you whole heartedly believe that you don't want to be 'used for spares' - could you say no if your other half could be saved by an organ donation? could you be so selfless as to turn that down if it was offered?

and as for the suggestion that people on the waiting list should have done something to deserve your organs - why?
can you really say that you would rather your organs went to waste than to a drug addict / alcoholic?
where then would we draw the line - i only want my organs to be used by loving parents / virgins / members of the clergy?

i carry a donor card, i give blood and i am on the bone marrow donor register. if i could give a kidney / part of my liver - i would.
what greater act can there be than to give someone 'more time'?

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Old 14-01-2008, 09:05   #20
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and as for the suggestion that people on the waiting list should have done something to deserve your organs - why?
can you really say that you would rather your organs went to waste than to a drug addict / alcoholic?
where then would we draw the line - i only want my organs to be used by loving parents / virgins / members of the clergy?
1. No not necessarily, but I'd rather they go to a kid or a young person with a future ahead of them rather than a 60 year old who has had more chance at life. However if there are no kids or young people waiting then of course I'd have no issues with that.

2. Yes I can really say that. I'd rather my organs be used for research or development than for them to go to waste on someone who has no respect for life or the second chance they are about to get.

3. That's really a little over dramatic but I'm sure you were just trying to make a point, it doesn't have to be that complicated.
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