Swine Flu

[Will]

I meant in use for colds/flu, I'm pretty clued up on how your body interacts with chemicals - of course for things like diabetes and other necessary hormone requirements to stay alive they are precious and necessary. However it is categoric that throwing lots of pills down your neck for flu is a waste of your time and money and does nothing but make your liver work harder

Modern medicine is great, but it is seriously flawed and we're too reliant on "cures" and "chemicals" to fix things - we don't know it all, and whilst some pills minimise the symptoms, they do not cure you, they work in synergy with your body to rid yourself of whatever issue you may have.

It's nature playing it's course, and we're trying to cheat it - we'll end up failing ultimately.

[Will]

Originally Posted by Matblack

Sorry Will but that's balls

MB

As I said, I meant in terms of flu.

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by Will

I meant in use for colds/flu, I'm pretty clued up on how your body interacts with chemicals - of course for things like diabetes and other necessary hormone requirements to stay alive they are precious and necessary. However it is categoric that throwing lots of pills down your neck for flu is a waste of your time and money and does nothing but make your liver work harder

Modern medicine is great, but it is seriously flawed and we're too reliant on "cures" and "chemicals" to fix things - we don't know it all, and whilst some pills minimise the symptoms, they do not cure you, they work in synergy with your body to rid yourself of whatever issue you may have.

It's nature playing it's course, and we're trying to cheat it - we'll end up failing ultimately.

Drugs like paracetamol do ease the symptoms of a cold/flu though, which many would consider reason enough to take them. I know it doesn't shorten the duration of the illness though.

[Mark]

Cold/flu is all down to perception. People certainly shouldn't be reaching for Tamiflu at the first sign of a sniffle. That's not what it's for and that's precisely how drug resistance happens. You can't cure a common cold, and the same goes for flu. Shame that a lot of people don't get this and pop whatever pill they think will work (when of course it won't).

I'm probably one of the people that comment was directed at, however. I'm quite happy to pay for Lemsip for example because it works for me, even though I know I could get the same effect from a paracetamol pill costing about 2p and a decongestant costing not much more. Some of the fact that 'it works for me' is undoubtedly placebo, but whatever.

Under current conditions I probably wouldn't bother with Tamiflu however. Benefit doesn't seem like its worth the risk or bother.

[Rich_L]

Saw my first people wearing surgical masks on the Tube today

How I lulz'd

Can't say I'm bothered, if you get it, you get it, can't really do much about it apart from stay indoors all the time.

[Will]

Minimising symptoms to me doesn't constitute a cure - it's just a way of tricking your receptors into not making you feel so ****. But I'd be lying if when I've had a migrane I've not reached for aspirin myself Plus I don't like paracetamol it's nasty stuff.

[Matblack]

Hmmmm

I didn't laugh when last week when one of my work mates was told their 6 month year old child caught it and had been placed in isolation, he seemed pretty concerned.

MB

[Will]

Originally Posted by Rich_L

Saw my first people wearing surgical masks on the Tube today

How I lulz'd

Can't say I'm bothered, if you get it, you get it, can't really do much about it apart from stay indoors all the time.

I reckon we should all be hermatically sealed in our homes Imagine desmo's - the house would take off in a matter of hours!!!

Ridiculous isn't it - I saw one on the train earlier in the week, I looked at them quizzically - those masks don't do squat, unless of course you've got it and don't want to spread it, but even then once saturated they're a lot less effective.

[dirtydog]

Originally Posted by Mark

Under current conditions I probably wouldn't bother with Tamiflu however. Benefit doesn't seem like its worth the risk or bother.

Nor me, not on hearing the possible side-effects etc. If I get it my plan is to grin and bear it.

[iCraig]

Originally Posted by Will

Minimising symptoms to me doesn't constitute a cure - it's just a way of tricking your receptors into not making you feel so ****. But I'd be lying if when I've had a migrane I've not reached for aspirin myself Plus I don't like paracetamol it's nasty stuff.

People taking paracetamol are idiots if they believe it's curing the flu, but I think as a treatment, it's fine. A lot of people haven't got the time to sit at home in misery and wait it out, they have work to do, kids to look after etc, so popping 2 paracetemol allows them to manage their symptoms whilst their body fights the infection.

It is toxic to the liver but so is a lot of stuff we eat, unless you stick to purely organic foods, glazing agents, iummulsifiers, sweeteners, colourants, alcohol, caffeine etc all need to be metabolized by the liver. Fortunately the liver is incredibly resistant and effecient at its job. Drugs taken in moderation or on occasion (whenever you have the flu) won't harm a healthy liver, maybe a lifetime of popping pills everyday but those people will need those pills to fight something far more serious anyway.