Poor Jade Goody!!

[A Place of Light]

Originally Posted by Rich_L

*bangs head against wall*

Interesting debate technique.
Doesn't it hurt?

[phykell]

Originally Posted by A Place of Light

I do think jealousy plays a part in the dislike for Jade than so many people seem to have.
Let's be honest, there aren't many people who can watch Jade on TV and not feel superior in terms of class or intellect. For many people, his then progresses to a feeling of resentment.
"look at her. She's thick, clumsy and coarse so why should she have all that money/easy going lifestyle when I still have to work for a living".

It's not hard to see what leads so many people to their almost vitriolic dislike of the girl.

I'm not "jealous" of people like her - I resent the fact that people can earn as much as they do without having to really work for it. I believe that people should be rewarded for talent and effort. I resent the fact that our society is seemingly so obsessed with with celebrity and I find myself unable to identify with the people who willingly embrace the media's idea of what our society's psyche should be. I think the kind of TV JG has found fame with sets a bad example for young people and TV broadcasters seem happy to perpetuate such shallow, vapid programmes simply to fill their timeslots. But jealousy? Definitely not.

[iCraig]

I agree phykell. It's a problem because fame and fortune are no longer associated with doing some noble, or pioneering. It's not a perfect world, I know, but it seems so wrong that real pioneers, stem cell researchers, astronauts, marine explorers, great leaders, often sit in the dark, never truly publicly appreciated. Instead the likes of Kerry Katona that bathe in the limelight, their name plastered around, and why? What have they done? Notably **** all. They think they're important, because we think they're important and it's an endless cycle. There's a dying breed of celebrities who do their work but remain modest. They do it out of passion, and career provocation, not just to get their face in Heat. They accept the inevitable by product of great success within the media, but refuse to lavish in the grotesque photoshoots and false interviews. Respectable entertainment is having its throat slowly slit by these constant and repetitive incarnations of the same old crap. Celebrities doing nothing on television. Literally nothing. Sitting in a house, or in a jungle camp, and constantly adjusting their cleavage for the cameras, pletheoras of them; washed up, has beens, having nothing worthwhile to their name apart from their names. Desperate to get invited on a panel show or Give Me The Valium for a transparent interview that's poorly hiding the fact it's a blatant plug of their latest fitness DVD or their third autobiography: "Guess what, I was actually abused as a child after all. BUY ME"

I hope for a day that the world of fame and fortune becomes cut throat. "What do you do? Nothing. Get off our screens then. Come back when you've written a successful book, or directed a blockbuster"

Reckon it will happen?

[AboveTheSalt]

Originally Posted by phykell

I'm not "jealous" of people like her - I resent the fact that people can earn as much as they do without having to really work for it. I believe that people should be rewarded for talent and effort.

What, like Sir Fred Goodwin? Talented crook who worked very hard to bring down RBS and has been amply rewarded for it by an unwilling taxpayer who has not actually gone out and bought the OK issue featuring him.

I'm sure that there are many other hard-working and talented bankers who are in much the same position - BASTARDS!

[Rich_L]

Sounds like you're just resentful you don't earn as much as Fred

[AboveTheSalt]

Originally Posted by Rich_L

Sounds like you're just resentful you don't earn as much as Fred

Mais oui, c'est vrai, certainement!

[A Place of Light]

Originally Posted by phykell

I'm not "jealous" of people like her

So many people buy lottery tickets.
So many people buy The Sun
So many people get hammered every weekend

Do you fit into any of these groups, or do you ackowledge that when I said "So many people" it wasn't a typo and I'd meant to type "All people".

Just because you don't share a certain opinion doesn't stop it from being widely held by large sections of the masses.
C'mon mate, even you have to admit that you're far from being a typical example of a UK citizen. You're more moral, better educated and more respectful than the majority of people for starters.

[A Place of Light]

Originally Posted by iCraig

I agree phykell. It's a problem because fame and fortune are no longer associated with doing some noble, or pioneering.

I think you're a few decades, not years, late with that announcement mate.

[iCraig]

I've always been aware of it, it just seems to have a sharper decline in recent years.

[A Place of Light]

Originally Posted by iCraig

I've always been aware of it, it just seems to have a sharper decline in recent years.

Society is dividing itself, and the gap between the interests and opinions of the two halves is widening.