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Old 23-10-2009, 09:40   #21
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Not sure about the protestors: I've always agreed with the principle of if you don't believe in free speech for the people you disagree with, you don't believe in it at all.

Luckily I feel that this show was successful in allowing Nick Griffin to expose himself as the abhorrent, vile racist air-headed weasel he is.

His attitudes towards 'heritage', homosexuality, race and religion are frankly unbelievable and it astonishes me that people voted for him; I enjoyed the discussion of whether or not the BNP gained so many votes due to people voting for anything other than the arguably confused 'main three' parties.
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Old 23-10-2009, 09:43   #22
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Well I'm convinced after that performance that the BNP doesn't have teh leadership or the gutso, the intelligence or the ideas to even be a remote threat to the UK.
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Old 23-10-2009, 09:45   #23
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It's a fair comment. Pretty much all of the backlash has been on those grounds (hair washing aside) - people just don't get it. He's an MEP - some people voted for him - get over it.

Oh, and for the benefit of The Times, Mr. Griffin wasn't reportedly booed anywhere. He was booed - loudly and clearly. Won't be shown on the show because they never show that bit, but it was covered on News 24 and the booing was very obvious.
Not exactly a representative audience was it. Full of non whites, Jews, gays, loony leftists etc. Although it was funny when even that hostile audience was rendered silent by some of Nick Griffin's responses. Like the black man 'where would you send me back to?' (cue raucous applause) Nick 'I'd be perfectly happy for you to stay here' (silence)

I guess that's the difference between having the media misrepresent the BNP's policies, and allowing the BNP a platform to say what the policies actually are.
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Old 23-10-2009, 09:47   #24
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Old 23-10-2009, 09:50   #25
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Agreed with that Will, I don't think the BNP would have a chance in hell of making it into leadership but I think it is the 'sudden' increase in voting numbers/gaining of seats that all this has been whipped up.

Did anybody else notice towards the end DD's "We only have around 10 minutes left and we don't want the whole show to be about the BNP" ?

They managed about two or three sentences before it all spilled back onto race issues etc.
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Old 23-10-2009, 10:16   #26
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Not exactly a representative audience was it. Full of non whites, Jews, gays, loony leftists etc. Although it was funny when even that hostile audience was rendered silent by some of Nick Griffin's responses. Like the black man 'where would you send me back to?' (cue raucous applause) Nick 'I'd be perfectly happy for you to stay here' (silence)

I guess that's the difference between having the media misrepresent the BNP's policies, and allowing the BNP a platform to say what the policies actually are.
Typical West London demographics then, no? Besides, it's always the minority with an axe to grind that turn up at this show. How quickly you forget about other politicians being lambasted on the show - though I'll grant Mr. Griffin got the worst of it by far. He makes himself an easy target.

Just to pick one point - Non-violent KKK leader? What on earth was he thinking?
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Old 23-10-2009, 11:10   #27
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The only part where he did well was on the question about Labour's immigration policy; Jack Straw flailed about ridiculously there. I don't accept the default position that immigration is a bad thing anyway, but I spose it'd be political cyanide for any politician to try and say that.
All in all though it was a bit of a pointless exercise - nobody's mind will have been changed either way, those who disagreed with him will still do so and those who agree with him will still do so.
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