Boat Drinks Virtual Election - Page 3

Goose · 05-05-2010, 20:10

From the Lib Dem energy and climate policy:

"No to nuclear and dirty coal. The power stations we rely on are not only threatening the climate, many of them are coming to the end of their useful life. As we replace them, we have to move on from old technologies. We will not waste taxpayer subsidies on nuclear power. And we will block any plans for dirty coal power stations"

I'm intrigued to know what new technologies they mean. I have a sneaking suspicion they've secretly managed to get nuclear fusion working in a shed somewhere...

Glaucus · 05-05-2010, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Goose

I'm intrigued to know what new technologies they mean. I have a sneaking suspicion they've secretly managed to get nuclear fusion working in a shed somewhere...

It says in there policies. Totally renewable. Which is not a solution at all. Yes we can use a fair % from renewable. but certainly not 100%

Goose · 05-05-2010, 20:15

I guess that means we'll be buying power from France then! I wonder what they use.

Pumpkinstew · 05-05-2010, 20:17

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Originally Posted by Pickers

Lib dems are claiming they will block all building applications for new nuclear power stations...

My friend is employed at Hinkley point nuclear power station, working in the reactor being decommisioned. They are applying to build a new station to replace the old. Although they agree with lib dem policies in other matters, if they voted for them, they'd be voting themselves out of the job quite literally.

I'll be working supplying parts for the replacement Trident subs and I'm still voting Lib Dem.

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Originally Posted by Volospian

Can't vote Clegg, I want the UK to retain her deterant and nuclear power...

I wish I had a spare £100,000,000,000 to build something I won't ever use.

The nuclear power position is a funny one though. We may have an abundance of wind and tidal power in this country but it will be a long time before we can tap with enough reliability to give up on fossil fuels or nuclear power. And that still doesn't address transport emissions.

Glaucus · 05-05-2010, 20:18

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Originally Posted by Goose

I guess that means we'll be buying power from France then! I wonder what they use.

Either that or black outs. Certainly not energy security which is needed. especially as oil prices continue to increase. I also believe electric transport is the only sensible and viable solution that can be planned and built with current technology. That will increase electrical power needs by a few folds.

Their power policies is crazy, but most people are not worried about this and have not even thought about it. As it is above most peoples understanding. without a fair chunk of research. Compounded by the lead time in building. Most people will blame these blackouts on who ever is in power in 20-25 years, not on libdems.

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Originally Posted by Pumpkinstew

I wish I had a spare £100,000,000,000 to build something I won't ever use.

It's used every day.
1) it is a detterent and as such works even with out launching.
2) are Un security seat is dependent on a nuclear arsenal.
3) it is only 2 billion a year which is little compared to a lot of government programs, of which most is ploughed back into the economy. (who was it who said milliatry spending was the least wasteful, as nearly all goes back into economy through contracts)

But that's not even the biggest reason not to vote lib dem.
Power security and large corporation security.

Goose · 05-05-2010, 20:23

It's insane, it really is. Here in Denmark they have a stack load of wind turbines. Nice little investment for the farmers, and does chip in to the grid (nearly 25% I believe?). However, they use a tiny amount of power compared to us. Mainly because they are all drunk.

I'd happily get rid of Trident, and get a decent carrier. Something of use.

divine · 05-05-2010, 20:24

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Originally Posted by AcidHell2

It says in there policies. Totally renewable. Which is not a solution at all. Yes we can use a fair % from renewable. but certainly not 100%

It's ridiculous really.

The largest nuclear station in the world has a capacity of over 8,000MW, coal, oil, gas are all around about 5,000MW.

Excluding hydroelectric dams (as we cant just whack a few of those up) the biggest 'renewable' energy power station in the world is a wind farm in the US.

Roscoe Wind Farm

If you zoom in, you can see all those lines are rows of windmills. According to wiki it is 100,000 acres in size and what capacity is it? Just under 800MW.

Solar, Tidal, Wave... all generate a fraction of what Wind does. Geothermal manages to just about match it. Renewable energies like this are not a viable option for solving our future energy requirements.

Glaucus · 05-05-2010, 20:29

The other problem with some renewable like wind. is it is not constant and is hard to predict. Can't meet power peaks and such like.

divine · 05-05-2010, 20:36

That'll be the least of peoples concerns when the entire country can barely power a few big cities at all

Glaucus · 05-05-2010, 20:42

And not one person irl has agreed with me, they all laugh at me when I say power security is the biggest and most important challenge.

Nearly all have said they want the 10k increase and the tax increase to large corporations.
as they'll get more money in their pocket and large corporations are evil. Absolutely no understanding of long term affects

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05-05-2010, 20:10	#21
Goose The list is long, but distinguished Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Århus, Denmark Posts: 1,643	From the Lib Dem energy and climate policy: "No to nuclear and dirty coal. The power stations we rely on are not only threatening the climate, many of them are coming to the end of their useful life. As we replace them, we have to move on from old technologies. We will not waste taxpayer subsidies on nuclear power. And we will block any plans for dirty coal power stations" I'm intrigued to know what new technologies they mean. I have a sneaking suspicion they've secretly managed to get nuclear fusion working in a shed somewhere... __________________

05-05-2010, 20:15	#23
Goose The list is long, but distinguished Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Århus, Denmark Posts: 1,643	I guess that means we'll be buying power from France then! I wonder what they use. __________________

05-05-2010, 20:23	#26
Goose The list is long, but distinguished Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Århus, Denmark Posts: 1,643	It's insane, it really is. Here in Denmark they have a stack load of wind turbines. Nice little investment for the farmers, and does chip in to the grid (nearly 25% I believe?). However, they use a tiny amount of power compared to us. Mainly because they are all drunk. I'd happily get rid of Trident, and get a decent carrier. Something of use. __________________

05-05-2010, 20:29	#28
Glaucus Absinthe Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,855	The other problem with some renewable like wind. is it is not constant and is hard to predict. Can't meet power peaks and such like. __________________

05-05-2010, 20:36	#29
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	That'll be the least of peoples concerns when the entire country can barely power a few big cities at all __________________

05-05-2010, 20:42	#30
Glaucus Absinthe Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,855	And not one person irl has agreed with me, they all laugh at me when I say power security is the biggest and most important challenge. Nearly all have said they want the 10k increase and the tax increase to large corporations. as they'll get more money in their pocket and large corporations are evil. Absolutely no understanding of long term affects __________________

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