Die Hard 4

[Feek]

The first three were, the last one was very obviously toned down to make it a much lower rating.

[Will]

Does it make it less watchable? Or less fun? What is it a 15?

[Feek]

Well, yes I think it does, because once one realises that's the case, it just seems toned down and (get this) unrealistic! The previous ones were full of swearing which makes the difference between watching a cop show made for TV where the language is unrealistic to the extreme "ouch, I've been shot, oh deary me, that stings a bit" and watching a movie made for the cinema with language that one would expect to hear "**** you asshole". "mother ****er, kiss my ass".

Plus of course yippie kay yay, motherfu*boom*

I'm not saying that I just want to hear people swearing, I could take a walk through any high street and hear enough of that but in the context of the film, it's expected.

The original Terminator was an 18 when first released, Terminator 2 was a 15 and was done that way so it appealed to a wider audience range and it wasn't really noticeable that it had been done. In this case, compared to the previous three it was very noticeable so yes, it did spoil the enjoyment a tad.

[Will]

Fantastic explanation - thanks Feek. I agree about T2 - it somehow "worked" didn't it? There wasn't that much swearing in the first one, it was just gratuitous violence!