New iPods

[Feek]

You can tell where my logic was going, can't you?

[LeperousDust]

If you have the subscription you need a Napster2go player i guess, and thats why you can't burn them. So yeah theyre still DRM laced unfortunately

DRM is hopefully on the out in the next few years though, i think the big players have finally got the idea...

[Garp]

Originally Posted by Feek

You can tell where my logic was going, can't you?

Not at all. I'm paying for a service I want to use on my MP3 player. I know exactly what I'm buying and why, and I use it to a large extent (5+ albums a week). If I like the album I tend to go and buy it, because like with iTunes, Napster have put the silly "can only be downloaded x times" restriction in, and I'm not so confident about the artist margins on purchases (Weird Al Yankovich hates iTunes as he makes significantly less per album than physical media)
A good number of MP3 players support the technology Napster uses, and almost all new ones do (even my Creative Zen Touch did and that was a few years old). Apple are the only ones locking you in to their DRM software, and their software package (iTunes) to purchase it through. If I decide I don't like Napster, and like another system, I can go and use that too. I can even use iTunes if I wanted to, as its supported on my MP3 player. Apple are stifling innovation by locking down their players so much.

[MarcLister]

Loving the new iPod classics. Not too sure about the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPod Nano/Shuffle.

I think the grey/silver iPod Classic looks a bit "off". The black one looks much better! The first time I've admired the black iPod more than the white/silver one.

Hope to get one reasonably soon. Got a 4th gen 40Gb one here so whenever I gets me a new iPoddy it'll be a colour screen and quite a lot thinner than this one. Going to go for the 80Gb. I'll not fill that up. No chance of 160Gb at all.

[LeperousDust]

Originally Posted by Garp

Apple are the only ones locking you in to their DRM software, and their software package (iTunes) to purchase it through. If I decide I don't like Napster, and like another system, I can go and use that too. I can even use iTunes if I wanted to, as its supported on my MP3 player. Apple are stifling innovation by locking down their players so much.

They don't totally lock you in though, you can rip CD's through iTunes and collect metadata and album art and then sync those with your iPod. Well i think you can, i've never tried, but if i can sync my less than legal mp3s i can't see why iTunes ripped mp3s would be any different?

[leowyatt]

Originally Posted by MarcLister

Loving the new iPod classics. Not too sure about the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPod Nano/Shuffle.

I think the grey/silver iPod Classic looks a bit "off". The black one looks much better! The first time I've admired the black iPod more than the white/silver one.

Hope to get one reasonably soon. Got a 4th gen 40Gb one here so whenever I gets me a new iPoddy it'll be a colour screen and quite a lot thinner than this one. Going to go for the 80Gb. I'll not fill that up. No chance of 160Gb at all.

Having a 4g iPod I never actually realised how thin the video ones were but have to say I like the silver look it fits in with the new iMac design. Having played with Kitten's new nano the interface is nice the way it's setup and the screen is amazing.

I'm certainly doing my best to hold out for an iPhone (now more so after getting to play with one) as the interface is gorgeous and works so well. I think the touch will be very popular and 16Gb isn't bad at all as the videos don't take up too much space.

Personally I'd find that with 80Gb I'd never be able to decide what to listen to I'd always be changing my mind and with a smaller iPod it forces me to update and change my music more often

[LeperousDust]

Originally Posted by Frumpy_Pigskin

Personally I'd find that with 80Gb I'd never be able to decide what to listen to I'd always be changing my mind and with a smaller iPod it forces me to update and change my music more often

Thats a good point,something i'd never really thought about. Makes sense though, but when you do want that "classic" track it's annoying NOT to have it on you there and then. Like when i take my iPod round to friends, we use them as portable dukeboxes and dock them, so not having the right music at the time is very annoying. But i know what you mean about not knowing what to choose

[leowyatt]

I understand what you mean about the classic track and it not being there. With the touch you'll be getting iTunes store right through your iPod so you could purchase the track. For some people that would be a good idea but I think another way apple will be going is getting the iPods especially the touch and future iterations to sync via wireless (in a similar vein to the searching functionality for leopard using .mac, though I've forgotten what they were calling the program it was in a keynote awhile back) That way it if you forgot the track you could get onto your mac, import it into iTunes and then sync your iPod over wireless.

[Joe 90]

far too many posts there to see if anyones already said...so

i hear apple have just ordered a shed load of 240gb disks from samsung so there will probably be a higher capacity range of these new models rather soon
imo apple are at it again - they release new models with crap capacity/feature, then a few months later have a 'stealth release' (read: no huge press conference and flashy new web site) where they start selling what should have been available to begin with...anyway... might be worth waiting.
this isn't perhaps the case for the whole range - maybe just like the ipod touch which is like 16gb which obviously isn't limited due to size/space within the device.

[leowyatt]

is that 240gb flash or 1.8mm disks? the touch won't get a drive in there, apart from the iPod Classic which might get a capacity bump but the rest of the iPods and iPhone are all going to be flash based.