Oven advice?

[dimple]

Originally Posted by Zirax

Thanks for your insight, I think that my washing machine is made by Indesit and that is rather dodgy as well.

Having seen the price of the Bosch ones I would certainly get one or Miele when my kitchen is done. However this seems overkill for a stop-gap oven for a couple of years.

It was around 3 years ago when standards really started to drop and it was painful to see professional people nearly in tears being told that stuff had to go through the door.
100s of people left because they saw the writing on the wall and how right they were.
Some would say I'm perhaps a bitter man but I'm being serious about the quality of this stuff.

Don't buy anything on this list - Indesit rubbish

[BBx]

Is Indesit really a rubbish make

I just bought a Fridge Freezer and looking to get a Washing machine.

BB x

[Zirax]

Well that must cover most of the range. From looking at the sheet this appears to be a quality control record detailing faults on individual cookers?

[dimple]

Originally Posted by BBelle

Is Indesit really a rubbish make

I just bought a Fridge Freezer and looking to get a Washing machine.

BB x

I believe that a lot of different manufacturers of fridge freezers are made with the same components from the same place so your Indesit will be just as good as a lot of others.
Fridge freezers were not my area of expertise.

Originally Posted by Zirax

Well that must cover most of the range. From looking at the sheet this appears to be a quality control record detailing faults on individual cookers?

This was my Cooker Bible that I made and went all over the world.
Basically we made that many different varieties with different colours that we needed some way of visually tracking what they looked like.
Individual cooker test sheets looked like this - C60GTX

[BBx]

cool thanks

BB x

[Mark]

My last two fridge freezers were Hotpoint and Indesit. Actually I had two Hotpoints as the first suffered a fan failure within weeks, but to their credit it was exchanged very quickly. Last purchase was well over three years ago. Creda cooker purchase was well over three years ago too so I have little experience with the modern stuff.

I've heard bad things about the likes of Indesit and Servis washing machines - not recently mind. Hotpoint have had shaky times in the past too (they were once famous for shredding clothes).

In the end though most brands, save the high-end ones (Bosch, Miele, etc.) started their lives in one of a very few factories, and they don't make them to last anymore.

[Andy100]

As an ex kitchen fitter I have to agree that Bosch is the way to go.

The number of other cookers I had to replace 3-4 times was just ridiculous. Bit's would fall off, the wires weren't connected inside the units... it was just a nightmare,

I guess in the 3 years I did it I probably only had 2-3 Bosch cookers that needed fixing.

They may be a bit more but if it saves you faffing around trying to get it fixed in 2 months then it's worth paying for.

[dimple]

Originally Posted by Andy100

The number of other cookers I had to replace 3-4 times was just ridiculous. Bit's would fall off, the wires weren't connected inside the units... it was just a nightmare,

There are set rules for checking Domestic Appliances in factories but when the Italians came they flouted every one.
Very slowly once proud people were reduced to not giving a damn about the product in front of them.
Inspectors & testers were given ludicrous workloads so that they couldn't do their normal jobs and virtually all products went through the door without being tested properly.
You wouldn't believe some of the stuff that came through my hands that would have gone to the public eg gas pipes that weren't connected which could cause serious damage in a house.
Indesit had a policy that most people don't complain and will put up with faults, if not just send somebody out.
I went to a meeting where they were saving 60 million Euros a year by giving suppliers unrealistic orders so they ended up paying or by paying the suppliers months later and pocketing the interest.
It only cost 14 million Euros to repair faulty cookers so they were millions of Euros in profit.
The 14 factories also had quality competitions around the world.
I had access to the other companies scores and my orders were to make sure we were always above them using whatever means.
I could have no more than 2 faults a week even though the first 30 mins produced that many.
I would have to make phone calls to line managers saying things like "Hi Brian, I'm going for a break and I have one of your cookers where the oven doesn't want to play with me" and when I returned it would magically be fixed.

Stay away from Creda, Hotpoint, Cannon, Indesit & Ariston because Poland have no quality at all.

[Glaucus]

Originally Posted by dimple

Stay away from Creda, Hotpoint, Cannon, Indesit

To tru. wouldn't touch these with a barge poll, unless they are cheape enough to change every 12months when tehy break on you and even then you would be lucky to last to 12 months.
After parents owning a hotpoint washing machine and a creda oven. There qaulity is frankly abysmal. With both spending more time out of action than in and I mean literally.