So, new macbooks.

[SidewinderINC]

Originally Posted by divine

Just looked at the spec list and they don't.

DVI adaptor is a £20 extra, VGA is a £20 and Dual Link DVI is a £70 add on.

The remotes are a £15 extra as well now.

Wow, they really are shafting people on the new ones!

Free remote with mine, DVI connection in built, and converter to VGA comes with.

[Mark]

Same with my Mac Mini. The accessories all came in the box.

[cheets]

Love apple fan boys, always wanting more, its a laptop, what more do you need.

[SidewinderINC]

Originally Posted by cheets

Love apple fan boys, always wanting more, its a laptop, what more do you need.

Err, nice to drop by with the insult but where are we "always wanting more"?

Seems we've only commented that you used to get those included, and you have to pay extra for them.

Stop being angry.

[LeperousDust]

Originally Posted by cheets

always wanting more, its a laptop, what more do you need.

You do realise how incredibly short sighted and dense that sounds right?

[Mark]

And I'm most certainly not what you'd call an Apple fanboy. I just have an open mind when it comes to hardware - shiny things are good things.

[cheets]

So what is the big fuss over this Keynote, just youtube the apple iphone keynote, the crowd was cheering everything Jobs said.

[LeperousDust]

Originally Posted by cheets

So what is the big fuss over this Keynote, just youtube the apple iphone keynote, the crowd was cheering everything Jobs said.

I agree with you here, the keynote speeches are akin to presidential speeches of yesteryear most of the time! The last iPhone keynote or whatever was pretty laughable, and yes 'they' lap up everything he tells them.

But that doesn't stop this being a beautiful and pretty dam powerful laptop, quite a bit better than most stuff on the market at present (all things considered) until you really look at the price. At which point you end up paying the apple tax. I'm personally not an "apple fan" you can ask Feek (and others) since i kept going on at him.

I've never been fascinated with OSX, but this laptop looks great on paper (apart from the mirror-like screen) and i'd probably be willing to give it a go if it wasn't coming at such an extreme.

I'm in the market for a new portable powerful laptop, and there actually isn't much on the market right now. I'm after powerful C2D, 12/13" Wireless N, Nvidia 9400 as minimum (rather 9600 and definitely NOT an 8xxx! after my hassle) backlit keyboard, webcam etc... The Dell E4300 comes close but the integrated intel graphics are putting me off, if they released the same with the nvidia 9400 i'd get one right away. So as you can see at present all things point towards this wonderful little macbook.

But to be fair i'll just wait for another cheaper OEM to release a laptop with similar spec

[PvtPyle]

Originally Posted by divine

MacBook 13" (1280x800) for £950 (£810 with Higher Education discount)
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0GHz
2GB DDR3 Memory
160GB Hard Drive
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics

Dell XPS 15" (1280x800) for £810
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz
4GB DDR2 Memory
320GB Hard Drive
NVIDIA 8600M GT graphics

Dell XPS 15" (1920x1200) for £970
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.5GHz
4GB DDR2 Memory
400GB Hard Drive
NVIDIA 8600M GT graphics

That's a huge sacrifice on specification in order to get MacOSX, A pretty design, maybe slightly better build and a funny trackpad.

That makes for very interesting reading... I think Apple have shot themselves in the foot with the new Macbooks - they were on the verge of being overpriced before, but £810 for the base unit WITH the student discount is madness IMO.

I am not a sales and marketing forecaster, but personally I think we'll see them revise this spec again, or drop their prices significantly, in Q1 2009 to compensate for sales falling off. This isn't a small increase after all, ~25% on ticket price for their most popular laptop for what is essentially "..a pretty design, [a glossy screen], maybe slightly better build and a funny trackpad" like you say..

[Mat]

The lack of a matte screen option and firewire just makes me love my 12" powerbook even more. I can't fault it really, its the best computer I've ever owned.