Modern Warfare 2

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Kreeeee

It means you're massively over reacting.

Jesus, you've got a bloody strange definition of "massively over reacting" !
FYI, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're over-reacting.

How about you try being less patronising and offensive!?

[Kreeeee]

I missed a " " there, but you need to be less delicate as it's just an internet forum.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by divine

second quote isn't really relevant, i just thought it was interesting

But the first quote is highly relevant - thanks for that.

To claim that the game was designed around console use and "just happened" work well on a PC is simply not plausible.

FPS games operate in a fundamentally different way on the PC than they do on a console and consideration must be given to this fact in order for a game to work well on both platforms. The fact that the game has been such a huge success on the PC aswell as the Xbox is evidence, IMO, that the game was "honed" just as much for the PC as it was for consoles.

There are games which were designed primarily with console use in mind and where a "last minute" PC version has been released with little or no regard to the differences twixt the platforms. COD4 isn't one of these.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Kreeeee

I missed a " " there, but you need to be less delicate as it's just an internet forum.

And you need to stop thinking of it as "just an internet forum" and try conducting yourself as you would IRL.

Your comment was patronising and offensive. Trying to pass it off as my fault for being "delicate" just compounds your lack of manners.

EDIT: On reflection I may be over reacting a bit here (I have had a few) so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and accept that your comment was not intended to be patronising. Maybe it's just me reading a "tone" into your comment that wasn't there?

[Kreeeee]

Originally Posted by Vertigo1

And you need to stop thinking of it as "just an internet forum" and try conducting yourself as you would IRL.

Your comment was patronising and offensive. Trying to pass it off as my fault for being "delicate" just compounds your lack of manners.

I'm the same "IRL", but people don't misinterpret what I say. That's the problem with the medium of text.

[NokkonWud]

Ah, if you are going to accentuate the turn "Just happened" as in it was a last minute decision that *just happened* to turn out well then you've taken what I said out of the context it was said in.

I merely said the game just happened to work well on PC as in the ideas implemented in into the console version such as the enhanced squad set up for MP, the advertising campaign, everything like that just happened to work on the PC and do well. The console market IS their primary market, it's who they target and first and foremost getting those console games out is what matters, that's where the money is. If they were to drop any format I guarantee that PC would be their first choice which is why the game is so console centric.

Every advertising campaign was for consoles, be it print, billboard or televised. Hell, you think it co-incidence that the unboxing of the Prestige edition was for Xbox360? The hardened edition. The DLC for Call of Duty 1 over PSN and Xbox Live.

It just so happens that despite all this, it just works on PC and is successful.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Kreeeee

I'm the same "IRL", but people don't misinterpret what I say. That's the problem with the medium of text.

Ok, as I edited into my post above, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that I was reading a patronising tone into your comment that wasn't actually intended.

[Kreeeee]

It happens a lot so it's obviously not your fault, but it's certainly not done to intentionally cause trouble

[Toby]

Originally Posted by NokkonWud

It just so happens that despite all this, it just works on PC and is successful.

I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle

Whilst I'm not claiming that consoles aren't their primary market as that's obviously where the money is, what I'm saying is that they put a lot of effort into making sure it worked properly on the PC too, rather than the really shoddy ports we sometimes get where there are remnants of the console version everywhere.

In terms of development, in the case of the Xbox and PC, the platforms are so similar that probably 90-95% of the work was shared anyway. Of the remaining 5-10% that was bespoke to each platform, I see no evidence that more effort was expended on the console version than was on the PC version, IYSWIM.

When it comes to marketing, of course they're going to concentrate on the console platform as this is the most lucrative market but that's marketing and is totally distinct from the actual game development itself.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Kreeeee

It happens a lot so it's obviously not your fault, but it's certainly not done to intentionally cause trouble

Ok let's just put it down to me being tired and slightly drunk

I think I need to go to bed.