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[A Place of Light]

Originally Posted by jmc41

The figures I saw indicate that's still amongst the highest values though, with Virgin on about £14-£15k.

Indeed it is, but it demolishes the medias (or managements) attempt to portray them earning what amounts to double the wages of their counterparts working for other airlines, thereby trying to cut the support of the public.

[Mark]

That depends on whether or not you include expenses. If BA's expenses rates are higher (and I've seen media reports that suggest they are), then in practice it may well work out closer to what media/management are saying.

The unions will want to portray the lower amount, and the management the higher. Truth, as usual, probably lies somewhere in the middle.

[Kitten]

the benefits were quoted as being £30,000 ish.

[A Place of Light]

Originally Posted by Kitten

the benefits were quoted as being £30,000 ish.

Really?
I saw a quoted wage figure of £29900, but that's since been corrected to only applying to a select few. Those that began their employment before 1997 for starters.

[Kitten]

hmmm, that's probably what I saw then. I think it said that once benefits were taken into account that the wage for cabin crew ranged from £18,000 to £55,000, so it's probably just an average, which is never a good marker.

I thought this was genius though

[Will]

LOL! Brilliant advert!

[Von Smallhausen]

Originally Posted by Stan_Lite

Are these people stupid?

They are planning on effectively shutting down the company they work for, for 12 days at a busy time of year - a company which is already losing money.

I'm not anti union - I went on marches in support of the miners in the 80s. If people are being treated unfairly then I'm all in favour of industrial action in order to force the employer's hands. From what I have read so far (both here and other places), BA cabin crew are among the best paid and best treated in the industry.

It looks to me like a company suffering losses have cleared out excess staff and tightened their belts in order to remain competitive - action which, whilst regrettable is necessary and justified.

From what I've been reading, much of the blame rests with BASSA (British Airlines Stewards and Stewardesses Association). Apparently, they refused to negotiate with BA over the cost cuts. Hardly the actions of a responsible organisation.

We have a militant leftie on the forums ..... guards ....seize him.

[Stan_Lite]

Originally Posted by Von Smallhausen

We have a militant leftie on the forums ..... guards ....seize him.

On one of the marches I went on in support of the miners, we had a sit down protest in the road in Glasgow. A particularly large Glasgow Polis offered me the choice of moving on or spending "5 minutes in the back of the van with him and his mates". I suddenly decided I had made my point sufficiently and sitting in the road was no longer necessary

[Kitten]

my step-dad was beaten by 'protesters' during the miners strike. Afraid it stopped me having any sympathy whatsoever when he turned up home from his job black and blue and STILL had to go to work because they were desperate for the resource.

[Garp]

Originally Posted by Kitten

my step-dad was beaten by 'protesters' during the miners strike. Afraid it stopped me having any sympathy whatsoever when he turned up home from his job black and blue and STILL had to go to work because they were desperate for the resource.

That's an aspect to the Union stuff I dislike. First up when the Union goes on strike the Union leader gets paid by the union. So whilst the workers get nowt, the main ringleader stands and preaches about solidarity whilst still being able to put bread on the table. Secondly that those that do strike somehow think that breaking the line is deserving of violence. People can't always afford the luxury of standing up for their principles. It's great if you can, but don't look down on others because they can't, and sure as hell don't beat them up.