Some people are just too evil

[Will]

Thing is inappropriate jokes are always pushing the boundaries of taste - like racist, sexist, sexual, death, religious etc... all sorts of those jokes are always tread a fine line. Have I laughed at all of those? Yes. I've even laughed at "cripple" jokes, and my cousin is brain damaged and is basically a rocking vegetable drooling in the corner. It pains me to say it, but it's true - and it's just a dose of being "human" that allows you to take a step back and realise how fortunate you are - and it' not a point and laugh in a mean way it's in a sort of I don't know a sort of jubilation but also cringe at the inappropriate wit.

I don't know how to phrase it - but as much as I find these jokes hurtful when I don't find them funny, I find enough funny that shouldn't be - so I let the bad ones slide else I should be a hypocrite.

I am a sensitive person and would never actively make jokes like that to hurt people, but if I heard a joke that I thought was cruel but sadistically amusing even if only ever so mildly I'm afraid I'd credit the humour for it's evil wit.

[Knipples]

I look after a child who suffers from epilepsy (amongst other things) and to see what he goes through before, during and after he has a seizure isnt always pleasant. To think that someone would wilfully do that to someone is just horrible.

[Will]

Oh absolutely - being put in physical harm is just wrong, then again look at all the slapstick comedy of past that's been re-enacted and that has been hilarious? I didn't smirk at this story as it happens I didn't particularly find it funny - however I do draw the similarities between other similar offensive pranks and jokes and the lines do share the same root. As I said in spite of the fact I wasn't affected by this one either positively or negatively doesn't mean that people can't find it wrongly amusing or the opposite.

[iCraig]

Originally Posted by Kitten

I'm sorry, but laughing at what is essentially words, sticks and stones etc etc, is completely and utterly different than laughing at someone being physically harmed by someone's actions. It may cause mental upset yes, and through that endanger the physical, but with this, a person's health is directly compromised.

Surely people can see it's not the same as telling a joke.

It's not a million miles away from it though, the jokes about Madeleine Mcann are of a real situation. A real 4-year-old and a real family who are devastated. In this case the victims isn't an innocent toddler, but epilepsy sufferers. I don't know the best way to explain this, because if dark humour isn't too your taste you're always going to misunderstand why people are laughing and what they're actually laughing at. I don't find fits funny, christ my Granddad had a major fit right in front of me and it terrified the crap out of me, and it was no laughing matter let me assure you. I'm not sure where the humour comes from precisely and let me stress here, it's not rolling on the floor wiping the tears from your eyes kind of humour, the prevailing emotion is sympathy and disgust, but there's just a little part involved with how these people managed to engineer the situation that tickled me, albeit briefly. If you're affected by the "joke" closely you're never going to appreciate the dark humour whatsoever, which is obviously as expected. You try forwarding a Maddie joke to the family and see what response you get, or to any other family that have lost a toddler, but it doesn't mean the dark humour is sick or anything.

[Matblack]

Its not really a joke though is it? Its a malicious attempt to trigger something that could possibly kill someone, more like happy slapping then any form of joke. I think anyone who has seen someone have a grand mal fit would probably agree but then the way epilepsy is portrayed (when it is portrayed) doesn't really bring home the shock of seeing someone fit and the potential for them hurting themselves, most people surf the net alone which would make the circumstances of turning a normally safe environment even more dangerous.

I think I've been holier than thou enough today so I'm not going to start casting stones but I think its pretty sick

MB

[iCraig]

Originally Posted by Matblack

Its not really a joke though is it? Its a malicious attempt to trigger something that could possibly kill someone, more like happy slapping then any form of joke. I think anyone who has seen someone have a grand mal fit would probably agree but then the way epilepsy is portrayed (when it is portrayed) doesn't really bring home the shock of seeing someone fit.

It's more of a joke than attempted murder as far as I can tell, but some jokes obviously have consequences. I've seen somebody having a major seizure like I said, it wasn't pleasant, all I wanted is for it to be over and for my Granddad to come back. I don't find seizures funny, per se. It's not that part of the whole thing that some people admitted to smirking about or whatever.

Originally Posted by Matblack

I think I've been holier than thou enough today so I'm not going to start casting stones but I think its pretty sick

MB

I can totally see why you think it's sick, I do, there's just an element of, well, I don't know that the best word is, ingenuity maybe? that I found a little bit funny. It doesn't mean I think the perpetrators are funny or they deserve a pat on the back or any of that. If somebody had ran up to a sufferer and flashed a pulsing light at them until they seized I wouldn't find it funny at all. I'd be inclined to go over and kick the crap out of them. I suspect it's the same for Desmo and Pebs etc

[Matblack]

Heres a vid of someone having a seisure in a safe environment (this is induced for study), imagine this with the person being alone and falling off a chair and the ricocheting about on the floor between solid furniture.

As someone has stated on youtube its a useful thing to be able to recognise in case you happen across someone at work or in public who is having a seisure then at least you have tell the ambulance what you have seem or what to expect.

It is a tiny bit disturbing if you're really sensitive to other people discomfort but its a fact of life

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H2vH1i...eature=related

I'm not condemning people for laughing and iCraig you're right I have laughed at other peoples misfortune myself, it usually makes me feel guilty but I'm sure its the same for most people.

MB

[BBx]

I fail to see how the OP is funny at all.

Then again I don't find genuinely funny things funny either :/

Thanks for the video Matt. Its probably something that people should see more often.

BB x

[iCraig]

Originally Posted by Matblack

I'm not condemning people for laughing and iCraig you're right I have laughed at other peoples misfortune myself, it usually makes me feel guilty but I'm sure its the same for most people.

Personally it's not about their misfortune, it was simply the way they managed to do it over the internet that raised a sly smile. I think I said to myself, "What crafty bastards" They're dickheads for doing it, pure and simple, it's just the ingenuity of how they did it was what tickled me.

[Justsomebloke]

I laughed.
My son in law has Epilepsy that bad that he cannot drive & had a couple of seizures last year. Obviously this means my one & only Grandson has a good chance of having as well.
I still Laughed.
When my Jazmine told me about Bobs' condition & when i am on the phone comforting her after a seizure i have 2 options. Go with the Heavy effecting our lives drama or make light of it & just get on with it, I choose the Latter.
I don't like thinking seriously about problems that effect my life i much prefer to make light of them & laugh at it every chance i get.
You'll see the same attitude if i ever get a terminal illness I Promise you

With my casual heart on the sleeve type posting style i just trust my friends to know that I have a Massive Heart & Never mean Any of my Friends any harm, There is Always a Damn good reason for my actions.