iPhone & HTC Touch Diamond - Page 43

A Place of Light · 08-09-2008, 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betty

**** **** ****. Theres a ****ing great big scratch down my screen.

**** **** ****.

Didn't you use the screen protector???

/shock.

A Place of Light · 09-09-2008, 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Place of Light

Didn't you use the screen protector???

/shock.

Hooold the phone.
Just noticed this thread is about the iPhoney AND the Touch.
D'oh.

BTW the battery life on my Diamond sucks hard. Not impressed.

Feek · 17-09-2008, 13:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feek

but the chances of me passing a credit check are miniscule to none.

I passed! I am the proud owner of a 16Gb 3G iPhone. I'm undecided as to whether to PAC a number over or just go with the new one. If I do, I'm not going to PAC my current one anyway but go with an old one which has been sitting inactive on my account for a few years. :undecided:

Desmo · 03-10-2008, 15:15

Here's a handy tip for those of you that flashed your Diamond ROM

Instead of using activesync, you can flash straight from your phones internal storage...

1. Copy the ROM .nbh file to the ROOT of your internal storage (NOT your phone memory).
2. Rename the file DIAMIMG.nbh
3. Soft-reset your phone and, straight away, hold VOL- & Back key together until your HardSPL loads up.
4. You will now see a menu appear that says it has found the ROM image. You can either press POWER to upgrade it or Enter to cancel. Hit POWER and the ROM will be installed.

All the usual cavaets apply. It's not my fault if you screw it up

You'll need to change your HardSPL if you haven't done so already (I'm using Olinex1.4). Make sure you have enough power in the phone. Don't turn the phone off until you are given the message that the update is complete. Don't play around with the phone or press buttons, just let it do it's thing, even if you think it's doing nothing. It WILL tell you when it's completed.

This can be used for full ROM's or just radios. I've just run this myself and it works fine.

iCraig · 03-10-2008, 15:53

Work has rolled out our company mobiles.

16 GB iPhone 3G's.

First impressions? Impressive. However Apple products usually are impressive at first sight in my experience. Swish controls and shiny cases only go so far though.

As a personal phone, I'm seeing no "major" problems but I think it falls short of Apple's hype. The battery life is "ok" even after the 2.1 update it's not great. It could/should be a lot better and even my 20 month old XDA Orbit holds a better charge than this straight out the box. With 3G, Wifi, GPS all off, the phone will last a few days before dying. With any of those on, a day. Not great so a car charger is essential if you're travelling anywhere with it. I expect it to do die on me and the worst possible time.

SMS isn't handled very well at all, and much more effort could have been put in to cater for one of the biggest methods of mobile communication. A conversation style layout doesn't feel right with text messages. With e-mails and forums sure, but with texts, I'm not convinced. The traditional cascading message list should have been left alone. No forwarding of texts is also something left out for reasons unknown. Remember how easy it is to recieve a funny joke on text and forward it to your own mates? Forget it on the iPhone, unless you fancy typing it all out yourself. You can't even copy and paste the contents into a new message because copy and paste isn't supported either. It's very basic, which is fine, but some people are paying through the nose for this phone, it should have better SMS features in all honesty.

Calls? Excellent so far. Call quality is solid and clear and the controls are a dream to use. The phone even turns the screen off when it's by your ear, but turns back on when you bring it back down. Clever.

E-mail? Mine sucks e-mail from Exchange and it's fantastic. I'm really impressed at how well it copes with a typical Exchange account. It pulls data down fast thanks to the 3G and the e-mail browser is responsive and very smart. It's so simple, out the office your phone beeps. You slide to unlock, read the new e-mail, tap reply and type your response. Sounds simple, but there's no lag, no scrolling up and down, left and right, fiddling with a stylus etc. It works perfectly, zero faults from me.

It would be nice if tasks with a reminder would pop-up, but sadly not. Calendars work well though.

Web browsing? Well, I've used the iTouch and it's all the same. Quick, easy, and sexy. Apple spin the truth a little bit on how well it copes with the web, anything more than a standard website and it falls down. Flash and javascript just simply aren't supported so some websites won't work at all. However the story is the same on most, if not all mobile devices.

Again, like the Touch, the music and video is spot on.

One final drawback? Well, maybe WM spoiled me with TomTom but it was so easy with my XDA. I had a phone and a satnav in one, perfect. The iPhone doesn't come close to that really. Google Maps is good but doesn't hold a candle to TomTom in terms of navigation software. There's apparently plans for TomTom to release a TomTom Touch app for the iPhone. I'll wait and see.

Mark · 01-12-2008, 14:18

Well, I think I escape my current tie-in in a fortnight, which leaves me with one big problem:

iPhone
HTC Touch Diamond
HTC Touch Pro
HTC/T-Mobile G1

The iPhone is certainly tempting - it's Apple, so it (mostly) just works - no messing about with stuff. Problem is I'm not sure I could deal with the Apple tie-in, or the lack of a proper keyboard.

HTC Touch Diamond seem to be going pretty cheap these days (comparitively). There's that 'no keyboard' problem again though.

HTC Touch Pro was my phone of choice, but there seem to be very few people selling it and thus no decent deals.

HTC/T-Mobile G1 is the 'new kid on the block'. Ticks the 'has keyboard' box, but it's very much 'bleeding edge' and while I'll accept a little instability (it happens), I've not read enough about the G1 to convince me it's a worthy competitor.

There's always the 'wait it out' option I suppose.

Davey_Pitch · 01-12-2008, 15:04

Have you considered the HTC Touch Dual? Has a slide out keypad just like a normal phone, so don't know if that's what you're after, or a QWERTY style keyboard. No Wi-Fi on it though I think, so that may well be a negative.

Daz · 01-12-2008, 15:09

I've seen the Touch Pro and it's got you written all over it Mark, cracking device. I'd hold out for that

Mark · 01-12-2008, 15:09

It's QWERTY I'm after. I may not use it that much, but I've found a proper keyboard to be vastly superior to all the on-screen efforts I've seen so far. I admit I haven't seen what the Touch or iPhone do for an on-screen keyboard though.

Davey_Pitch · 01-12-2008, 15:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daz

I've seen the Touch Pro and it's got you written all over it Mark, cracking device. I'd hold out for that

I'm less than a year from renewing my contract and that's what I'm hoping to get when I do renew, as it looks like a fantastic device.

03-10-2008, 15:15	#424
Desmo The Last Airbender Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pigmopad Posts: 11,915	Here's a handy tip for those of you that flashed your Diamond ROM Instead of using activesync, you can flash straight from your phones internal storage... 1. Copy the ROM .nbh file to the ROOT of your internal storage (NOT your phone memory). 2. Rename the file DIAMIMG.nbh 3. Soft-reset your phone and, straight away, hold VOL- & Back key together until your HardSPL loads up. 4. You will now see a menu appear that says it has found the ROM image. You can either press POWER to upgrade it or Enter to cancel. Hit POWER and the ROM will be installed. All the usual cavaets apply. It's not my fault if you screw it up You'll need to change your HardSPL if you haven't done so already (I'm using Olinex1.4). Make sure you have enough power in the phone. Don't turn the phone off until you are given the message that the update is complete. Don't play around with the phone or press buttons, just let it do it's thing, even if you think it's doing nothing. It WILL tell you when it's completed. This can be used for full ROM's or just radios. I've just run this myself and it works fine. __________________

03-10-2008, 15:53	#425
iCraig iCustom User Title Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,250	Work has rolled out our company mobiles. 16 GB iPhone 3G's. First impressions? Impressive. However Apple products usually are impressive at first sight in my experience. Swish controls and shiny cases only go so far though. As a personal phone, I'm seeing no "major" problems but I think it falls short of Apple's hype. The battery life is "ok" even after the 2.1 update it's not great. It could/should be a lot better and even my 20 month old XDA Orbit holds a better charge than this straight out the box. With 3G, Wifi, GPS all off, the phone will last a few days before dying. With any of those on, a day. Not great so a car charger is essential if you're travelling anywhere with it. I expect it to do die on me and the worst possible time. SMS isn't handled very well at all, and much more effort could have been put in to cater for one of the biggest methods of mobile communication. A conversation style layout doesn't feel right with text messages. With e-mails and forums sure, but with texts, I'm not convinced. The traditional cascading message list should have been left alone. No forwarding of texts is also something left out for reasons unknown. Remember how easy it is to recieve a funny joke on text and forward it to your own mates? Forget it on the iPhone, unless you fancy typing it all out yourself. You can't even copy and paste the contents into a new message because copy and paste isn't supported either. It's very basic, which is fine, but some people are paying through the nose for this phone, it should have better SMS features in all honesty. Calls? Excellent so far. Call quality is solid and clear and the controls are a dream to use. The phone even turns the screen off when it's by your ear, but turns back on when you bring it back down. Clever. E-mail? Mine sucks e-mail from Exchange and it's fantastic. I'm really impressed at how well it copes with a typical Exchange account. It pulls data down fast thanks to the 3G and the e-mail browser is responsive and very smart. It's so simple, out the office your phone beeps. You slide to unlock, read the new e-mail, tap reply and type your response. Sounds simple, but there's no lag, no scrolling up and down, left and right, fiddling with a stylus etc. It works perfectly, zero faults from me. It would be nice if tasks with a reminder would pop-up, but sadly not. Calendars work well though. Web browsing? Well, I've used the iTouch and it's all the same. Quick, easy, and sexy. Apple spin the truth a little bit on how well it copes with the web, anything more than a standard website and it falls down. Flash and javascript just simply aren't supported so some websites won't work at all. However the story is the same on most, if not all mobile devices. Again, like the Touch, the music and video is spot on. One final drawback? Well, maybe WM spoiled me with TomTom but it was so easy with my XDA. I had a phone and a satnav in one, perfect. The iPhone doesn't come close to that really. Google Maps is good but doesn't hold a candle to TomTom in terms of navigation software. There's apparently plans for TomTom to release a TomTom Touch app for the iPhone. I'll wait and see. __________________

01-12-2008, 14:18	#426
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Well, I think I escape my current tie-in in a fortnight, which leaves me with one big problem: iPhone HTC Touch Diamond HTC Touch Pro HTC/T-Mobile G1 The iPhone is certainly tempting - it's Apple, so it (mostly) just works - no messing about with stuff. Problem is I'm not sure I could deal with the Apple tie-in, or the lack of a proper keyboard. HTC Touch Diamond seem to be going pretty cheap these days (comparitively). There's that 'no keyboard' problem again though. HTC Touch Pro was my phone of choice, but there seem to be very few people selling it and thus no decent deals. HTC/T-Mobile G1 is the 'new kid on the block'. Ticks the 'has keyboard' box, but it's very much 'bleeding edge' and while I'll accept a little instability (it happens), I've not read enough about the G1 to convince me it's a worthy competitor. There's always the 'wait it out' option I suppose. Last edited by Mark; 01-12-2008 at 18:16.

01-12-2008, 15:04	#427
Davey_Pitch I iz speshul Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 6,296	Have you considered the HTC Touch Dual? Has a slide out keypad just like a normal phone, so don't know if that's what you're after, or a QWERTY style keyboard. No Wi-Fi on it though I think, so that may well be a negative. __________________ Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. It's not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own lights shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

01-12-2008, 15:09	#428
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	I've seen the Touch Pro and it's got you written all over it Mark, cracking device. I'd hold out for that __________________ apt-get moo

01-12-2008, 15:09	#429
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	It's QWERTY I'm after. I may not use it that much, but I've found a proper keyboard to be vastly superior to all the on-screen efforts I've seen so far. I admit I haven't seen what the Touch or iPhone do for an on-screen keyboard though.

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