20-10-2008, 08:33 | #41 | |
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I would have hoped that by bringing people up to speed about many of these animals being 'skinned alive' with out being despatched first after spending what lives they do have in conditions which in many cases cause them physical and mental anguish would maybe make people think. But maybe as I say I shouldn't be suprised MB |
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20-10-2008, 13:01 | #42 |
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Creatures higher up the foodchain exploit those lower.
Does a bear have empathy for a fish as it rips its guts out? Does an owl give a **** about a mouse? Why should we care about what are, at the end of the day, dumb animals? |
20-10-2008, 13:22 | #43 | |
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I would say that one of the main thing with sets us apart from other animals is our ability to empathise with the pain of other living things, if that doesn't bother you at all then (like your mum told you) you're special MB |
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20-10-2008, 13:47 | #44 | |
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As for the discussion in general, I don't have a problem with rearing animals for their food, their skin or any other reason we might need them. But I still think that we do need to care for them whilst they are alive and also make sure they are killed in the most humane way possible. I'll do my best to buy food that is from free range sources if I can but at the same time I'll not go without just because I can't.
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20-10-2008, 17:51 | #45 | |
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The suffering of any sentient creature is not something that should be acceptable in a civilised society, IMO.
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20-10-2008, 20:30 | #46 | ||
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You may think I'm being obtuse on purpose, but the point that I'm making which you can't understand is simply that I don't give a toss about the living conditions of animals that are bred for a specific purpose (food, fur, whatever), it just doesn't bother me. I am apathetic towards them.
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20-10-2008, 21:46 | #48 |
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As much as I am against killing an animal solely for its fur, it's very easy for the middle-class champagne-sippers to condemn these people as the embodiment of evil, when more often than not they are shanty-dwelling paupers with nothing to their name just trying to provide for themselves and their families. Poverty can bring out the worst in people.
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20-10-2008, 23:23 | #50 | |
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For the record I'm against causing unnecessary suffering to animals. This includes prolonged suffering from skinning alive, trapping, poisoning and bloodsports (such as fox hunting, dog-fighting) WRT the meat industry I agree with killing for food providing animal welfare standards are adhered to and try and buy free range where possible. On the subject of halal/ kosher meat Im plonked quite squarely on the fence as I just don't know enough about them to say whether they are more or less humane than standard Western practice- the literature on the subject seems to be a bit vague and contradictory.
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