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Old 10-03-2009, 16:05   #61
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No, the list is the sort of food that will typically be available in today's supermarkets that will contain aspartame. My point is (and I think you know what my point is tbh) is that to avoid all of those *plus* whatever other things contain MSG and the other "dangerous" additives isn't as easy as you're trying to make out. I think it takes a concious and sustained effort to avoid the main additives with medical controversy, compared to just not really worrying about them, and getting on with it.
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Old 10-03-2009, 16:07   #62
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I just think it's a bad idea to knowingly adopt an attitude of being unconcerned about what's in your food when it's obvious that the quality that's available to us, is so variable and inconsistent. I also believe that advantage of eating decent food is borne out by increasing levels of diabetes and heart disease, etc. I think the correlation between our diet and the shocking rises in various health issues can no longer be denied, or, more important, ignored by the younger generation.
That, I entirely agree with
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Old 10-03-2009, 16:18   #63
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...to just not really worrying about them, and getting on with it.
You keep saying that as though the very food you eat, isn't all that important.

As for your list, if that's representative of what contains aspartame, then it's pretty easy to avoid IMO. However, if your criteria for being "easy to avoid" doesn't include taking any notice of what your food contains then I guess that's something we don't agree on. No wonder consumers apparently need traffic light symbols on their food

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I think it takes a concious and sustained effort to avoid the main additives with medical controversy...
I disagree - I'm probably lazier than most people and I manage
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Old 10-03-2009, 16:43   #64
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What ever is on special offer, same as mouth wash and shower gel.
However I do make sure it's a "total" toothpaste
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Crest! as it was cheap in the chemist and i couldn't be bothered to into town.
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Old 10-03-2009, 18:54   #66
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I disagree - I'm probably lazier than most people and I manage
Apart from caffeine, right? Tedious as it is caffeine has controversy itself, about links to bowel cancer, stomach ulcers and stomach cancer, precursor to migraines, damage to adrenal glands and the kidneys, diabetes, bladder cancer etc. This is concerning long-term use too, something you do I assume. I do too by the way, I love coffee and ignore all those articles that pop up now and again about how more than 3 cups of coffee per day will make you grow another face. However, why do you consume so much caffeine (I assume you avoid instant like the plague and have ground) but avoid other contoversial substances? I know this might sound like I'm trying to point out hypocrisy, I'm not, we're all hypocrites anyway, I'm just genuinely interested in why caffeine is ok for you to risk until it's proven safe, but stuff like fluoride is filtered out from the very taps you drink?
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Old 10-03-2009, 20:23   #67
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Everythings controversial and there is nothing wrong with aspartamine, caffeine or nearly everything else in sensible quantities.
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Old 10-03-2009, 20:56   #68
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Apart from caffeine, right? Tedious as it is caffeine has controversy itself, about links to bowel cancer, stomach ulcers and stomach cancer, precursor to migraines, damage to adrenal glands and the kidneys, diabetes, bladder cancer etc. This is concerning long-term use too, something you do I assume. I do too by the way, I love coffee and ignore all those articles that pop up now and again about how more than 3 cups of coffee per day will make you grow another face. However, why do you consume so much caffeine (I assume you avoid instant like the plague and have ground) but avoid other contoversial substances? I know this might sound like I'm trying to point out hypocrisy, I'm not, we're all hypocrites anyway, I'm just genuinely interested in why caffeine is ok for you to risk until it's proven safe, but stuff like fluoride is filtered out from the very taps you drink?
Did I claim I was a paragon of virtue?

I don't drink, nor do I smoke or take drugs, but it's not black and white as I've already said. Eating decent food, avoiding the crap, is not some sort of religion for me and I don't think it needs to be for most people. Taking *reasonable* care as to what you eat and drink is the key - that's what I do and that's what I think most people should do, especially bearing in mind the state of the nation's health. Oh, and I have just the one (sometimes two) coffee a day - I usually have water, fruit tea or juice other than that
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Old 10-03-2009, 20:57   #69
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Just back to the Euthymol toothpaste - you don't have to use anything like as much on your brush so while it might appear to be more expensive than other brands, it probably isn't.
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I like Colgate. I usually get whitening or scope kind.
I can't user Crest though... it's so harsh it makes me get ulcers:-(
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