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Old 05-11-2008, 11:55   #71
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I think he has too much work to do to reshape the States and he won't be able to do it in 4 years... but I'm a cynic.
What is there to say he'll only be there for 4 years? They voted the previous idiot in twice so there is hope for Obama
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:00   #72
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I certainly hope he'll be there for 4. Assassins bullet aside.

It's whether he'll be there in 8 that is the question.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:29   #73
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It's whether he'll be there in 8 that is the question.
That's down to Obama.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:41   #74
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It's like watching the West Wing in real life.
It really was. I woke up in my chair around 3 something and decided that I had to sleep. What a thing to wake up to. God damn it, why isn't UK politics as interesting or as fun or even as patriotic?
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:44   #75
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Are the problems faced by America and it's international partners and allies fixable in the next 8 years.
No quite frankly, he needs two terms to really get the ball rolling, but politics is based around momentum and once things get started its hard to stop them. However there will be an instant change in the perception of the US, Obama is about inclusion not unilateral action, the extremists will hate him because he will make America a more apprachable figure in the global arena, he's a great orator and I see a much great unity with him around and once Americans see this can be possible I think they will grow to like it. The US has taken a hammering recently and I for one don't think it can afford to stand alone on the worldd stage anymore, Obama is the one to get the US to play nice and that can happen quickly. Instant changes you might see are tax cuts for the poor and middle income families and increases for the richs and corperations, you won't see universal healthcare though he's a lot more careful than that when he talks about tax funded initatives, Americans in general don't seem to understand socilaist altruistic concepts, they get them confused with Communism :/

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Old 05-11-2008, 13:05   #76
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That is an incredible speech. I'll have to see it televised later as I'm sure it's even more impressive when spoken.

Annoyingly I had to give in to sleep and fell asleep about 3.50 So close to seeing what I'd been waiting for. Really wanted to keep going and see history unfold.

I sincerely hope that Obama will make a huge, positive difference. It all sounds so positive now, which often happens in situations like this, so I hope it continues and he's what the American people wanted.
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Old 05-11-2008, 13:16   #77
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I just got home at 4am. God what a night. You should have seen the energy in the room. After every state was announced it went to Obama... Ohio, Colorado, Hawaii!!!! etc etc!!! and then..... the final announcement. President. Wow. The place just exploded. I was hugging people I didn't know, we were all crying, shouting, and clapping along with the crowds during the speeches. Just one very emotional, overwhelming and proud night.

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Old 05-11-2008, 13:56   #78
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It really was. I woke up in my chair around 3 something and decided that I had to sleep. What a thing to wake up to. God damn it, why isn't UK politics as interesting or as fun or even as patriotic?
I got up at 4am especially for it and watched that speech delivered live, even though i am half the world away, it was really something else. I have never seen such emotional and powerful speech since JKF and Martin Luther King.
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I do have to say though that I found the booing of the crowd at his speech every time Obama's name was mentioned quite disturbing, I hope that there isn't a hardcore of Americans who won't give Obama a chance just because of the colour of his skin

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There is a huge number of people incredibly opposed to Obama who always be, just take a look at any reasonably strong christian forums and you'll see people who are praying for god to save them from this evil that has become imposed upon their country.

The way these people are reacting you would think that quite literally the four horsemen had come and knocked on their front doors.
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When you said that bit about the people believing in him that is so what I saw - the West Wing!!

Thanks for posting that speech MB, that's amazing - can't wait to see/hear it spoken.
Here is the speech in full
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