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Old 27-03-2008, 14:57   #81
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Yeah it is, but that works both ways - blaming the hardware for an OS fault is just as bad as blaming the OS for crap hardware.

I think I've said all along that Apple are good at the total package. Take part of that away and it soon falls apart like a house of cards.

I must confess I've lost the plot (if there was a plot) with this thread, so I'm not sure where this is going.
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Old 27-03-2008, 14:57   #82
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There is that and as Leo said, its a good package that imho is worth spending that little extra on.
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Old 27-03-2008, 14:57   #83
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I think the point DRZ is making though is that everybody praises how stable it is and they give ALL credit to the OS, whereas it's actually an OS/hardware combination.
Indeed, it'd be pretty poor on Apple's part if they were only coding for a few different specific hardware combinations and couldn't make it stable.
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Old 27-03-2008, 14:59   #84
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I must confess I've lost the plot (if there was a plot) with this thread, so I'm not sure where this is going.
Me too, and I still can't believe no-ones said you can't right click on a Mac I think there's enough info here for Will to make a decision. I bet he sticks with Windows just to avoid the daily fun of being a Mac user on the internet
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Old 27-03-2008, 15:04   #85
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Me too, and I still can't believe no-ones said you can't right click on a Mac
Please, use a real mouse.

Apple's persistance with one-button mice is one area that does get on my nerves, along with the arcane and completely unnatural keyboard combinations they sometimes like to use. Why insist on requiring two buttons to do a job when one is perfectly acceptable?
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Old 27-03-2008, 15:14   #86
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Please, use a real mouse.

Apple's persistance with one-button mice is one area that does get on my nerves, along with the arcane and completely unnatural keyboard combinations they sometimes like to use. Why insist on requiring two buttons to do a job when one is perfectly acceptable?
Which keyboard combos? Its funny because thats their exact reason for the one button mouse. Give users 2 button to push and they won't know when to use one or t'other. Give them one and they know when to push it. I think all the new mice are Mighty Mice now which can be set to be 2 button or 1.
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Old 27-03-2008, 21:48   #87
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Exactly. I don't want to sound too fanboyish but it seems a silly point to score in the epic battle of this vs that. Linux is better because it was designed with multiple hardware configs in mind. If it doesn't work with something you, or some beardy bloke writes the driver for it and away you go. OSX fails at something it wasn't designed to do? Well thats like saying my Corsa is rubbish as a track car unless we do lots of things to it to make it work that way. (Yes I know it'll still be rubbish as a track car because its a Corsa )
Actually a better analogy would be like Vauxhall releasing the Corsa, but you can only use it if you drive it on Vauxhall-approved roads and use Vauxhall-specific petrol lest it break horribly.
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Old 27-03-2008, 22:54   #88
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Oh I'm still very keen on getting a mac. I like the fact that they're written the software specifically for bits of hardware, that's what makes it so great. Unfortunately windows has it's work cut out owing to all the hybrid machines out there! So in it's defence windows does a stonking job of compiling a big database of drivers and making sure that 9/10 times it works perfectly or with minimal detrimental affects to performance etc... Linux is getting there, and if it wasn't for the fact that you have to be quite technically minded and have the patience of a saint, and be a bit of a geek to use it I'd use it as a main OS - at the moment it's used as a free "different" OS just because. It's still a ballache to use at times if ever anything breaks on it However it's no different to other computer issues really - I just don't know how to do stuff with it - it does look pretty though, and all in all just "works" too. I just wish I was a geek (well I don't actually) enough to be able to play with it with little effort - I just don't have the time, patience or energy.
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Old 27-03-2008, 23:00   #89
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End of the day Drz you will always champion Linux and others here (myself included) will champion OSX.
Actually, I champion common sense. Linux isn't for anyone that doesn't have spare time, OSX is for people that are prepared to pay for it (and the associated hardware required) in return for specific benefits, Windows is for everybody else
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Aha - looks like some consensus is emerging. Makes perfect sense to me.
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