Upgrading Sky HD box

Toby · 19-01-2009, 17:52

Hi,

The inlaws are wanting to upgrade the hard drive in their Sky HD box to provide more space but they're not the most technically minded.

Yesterday they were telling me a few things they'd "discovered", including...

1. They've been told that the Sky HD box won't recognise a disk larger than 500GB

2. They've found a seller on ebay who claims to provide 1TB discs that will work as they're "formatted" by some other means.

3. They've seen someone selling 500GB discs with installation instructions for £100!

Now firstly, does anyone know if this 500GB limit is true? If so, then is this vendor of 1TB disks on the level?

Also, the vendor selling the 500GB discs is taking them for a ride IMO as they could surely get the disk for half that and find some instructions online themselves (or rather I could).

I'm basically after any info on this. As I don't have Sky I'm not up on such things but, from what I've heard, I was under the impression that you could slap any disk in there and it would just work, with the Sky box initialising it automatically, but that getting a 5400rpm drive was advisable as 7200rpm drives could produce too much noise and/or heat. Is any of this true?

If anyone here has done anything similar I'd love to hear your experiences/advice

leowyatt · 19-01-2009, 17:57

I think Mr Burble has an upgraded HD box

Burble · 19-01-2009, 18:03

The 500Gb thing is kinda true. If you take a brand new 500Gb out of the box and put it into the Sky HD box it'll work but do the same with a 1Tb drive and it won't.

To get around that you need to clone your original drive onto the new one and then shove the new one it. That's how I got my 750Gb drive working.

Some drives are said to be better than others, I forget what the suggested ones are now as I changed mine about a year ago. 5400rpm drives are recommended as 7200rpm drives seem to tip the scales on temperature meaning that the cooling fan underneath the drive will be on all the time and it's a very noisy fan.

Changing the drive is a doddle, it's just a case of taking off the lid, unscrewing the plastic caddy that the drive sits in, unscrewing the drive from the caddy then doing the reverse to put it back together.

If warranty is an issue, the only warranty sticker is on the bottom of the caddy over one of the screws holding the drive into the caddy. So if they wanted to not break the warranty seal they'd need to find an alternative way of mounting the drive in the box.

Jhadur · 19-01-2009, 18:12

A quick question as I was thinking of upgrading our box. Are the drives IDE or sata?
Also what size drive is in there as standard?

Burble · 19-01-2009, 18:14

Sky HD boxes are SATA. Standard drive is 300Gb with about 160Gb available for recordings, the rest is set aside for Sky Anytime.

Mark · 19-01-2009, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burble

I forget what the suggested ones are now as I changed mine about a year ago. 5400rpm drives are recommended as 7200rpm drives seem to tip the scales on temperature meaning that the cooling fan underneath the drive will be on all the time and it's a very noisy fan.

I don't know whether or not they're the recommended drives, but the WD Green Power lot fit the bill in the cool/quiet category.

Quote:

Changing the drive is a doddle, it's just a case of taking off the lid, unscrewing the plastic caddy that the drive sits in, unscrewing the drive from the caddy then doing the reverse to put it back together.

You'd need the right bits of course. The old Sky boxes used Torx 'security' bits I believe. Fortunately, if that's still the case, they're readily available.

Also, keep well away from the power supply. I don't know if Sky boxes now have covers over the power components, but some boxes don't, and even with the power off you can still get zapped by the heavy duty capacitors in the power supply. That tends to hurt.

Burble · 19-01-2009, 18:19

I think I've got a Samsung of some description in mine.

From what I remember Sky HD boxes are all philips and posidrive screws as was my original Sky + box (which came with a paltry 40Gb HD!).

Yeah, the PSU's aren't covered in the HD boxes either. Seems a bit silly to me.

Mark · 19-01-2009, 18:21

Maybe it was TiVo I was thinking of then for having Torx screws. The process is similar (except you have to clone the drive, and fettle about with it a bit afterwards).

Now my original Sky+ box is 'un-subbed' I'm waiting a bit to see if they eventually turn off the Sky+ functionality on it. If they don't, I might play.

Burble · 19-01-2009, 18:22

Heh, can't believe I wrote my first reply and didn't say how to clone the drive! You need a bit of software called Copy+.

Mark · 19-01-2009, 18:35

Ooh, thanks. If I do as I suggested above, I'll give +Extract a go too. It would be good to have the FTA stuff on my Sky+ disk in original quality (rather than the second generation copy I currently have).

19-01-2009, 17:52	#1
Toby Absinthe Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,023	Upgrading Sky HD box Hi, The inlaws are wanting to upgrade the hard drive in their Sky HD box to provide more space but they're not the most technically minded. Yesterday they were telling me a few things they'd "discovered", including... 1. They've been told that the Sky HD box won't recognise a disk larger than 500GB 2. They've found a seller on ebay who claims to provide 1TB discs that will work as they're "formatted" by some other means. 3. They've seen someone selling 500GB discs with installation instructions for £100! Now firstly, does anyone know if this 500GB limit is true? If so, then is this vendor of 1TB disks on the level? Also, the vendor selling the 500GB discs is taking them for a ride IMO as they could surely get the disk for half that and find some instructions online themselves (or rather I could). I'm basically after any info on this. As I don't have Sky I'm not up on such things but, from what I've heard, I was under the impression that you could slap any disk in there and it would just work, with the Sky box initialising it automatically, but that getting a 5400rpm drive was advisable as 7200rpm drives could produce too much noise and/or heat. Is any of this true? If anyone here has done anything similar I'd love to hear your experiences/advice __________________

19-01-2009, 17:57	#2
leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	I think Mr Burble has an upgraded HD box __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"

19-01-2009, 18:12	#4
Jhadur Peter Pan Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lost Inside My Head Posts: 1,068	A quick question as I was thinking of upgrading our box. Are the drives IDE or sata? Also what size drive is in there as standard? __________________ "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in awhile, you could miss it."

19-01-2009, 18:14	#5
Burble Rocket Fuel Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,826	Sky HD boxes are SATA. Standard drive is 300Gb with about 160Gb available for recordings, the rest is set aside for Sky Anytime. Last edited by Burble; 19-01-2009 at 18:21.

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19-01-2009, 18:03	#3
Burble Rocket Fuel Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,826	The 500Gb thing is kinda true. If you take a brand new 500Gb out of the box and put it into the Sky HD box it'll work but do the same with a 1Tb drive and it won't. To get around that you need to clone your original drive onto the new one and then shove the new one it. That's how I got my 750Gb drive working. Some drives are said to be better than others, I forget what the suggested ones are now as I changed mine about a year ago. 5400rpm drives are recommended as 7200rpm drives seem to tip the scales on temperature meaning that the cooling fan underneath the drive will be on all the time and it's a very noisy fan. Changing the drive is a doddle, it's just a case of taking off the lid, unscrewing the plastic caddy that the drive sits in, unscrewing the drive from the caddy then doing the reverse to put it back together. If warranty is an issue, the only warranty sticker is on the bottom of the caddy over one of the screws holding the drive into the caddy. So if they wanted to not break the warranty seal they'd need to find an alternative way of mounting the drive in the box.

19-01-2009, 18:19	#7
Burble Rocket Fuel Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,826	I think I've got a Samsung of some description in mine. From what I remember Sky HD boxes are all philips and posidrive screws as was my original Sky + box (which came with a paltry 40Gb HD!). Yeah, the PSU's aren't covered in the HD boxes either. Seems a bit silly to me.

19-01-2009, 18:21	#8
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Maybe it was TiVo I was thinking of then for having Torx screws. The process is similar (except you have to clone the drive, and fettle about with it a bit afterwards). Now my original Sky+ box is 'un-subbed' I'm waiting a bit to see if they eventually turn off the Sky+ functionality on it. If they don't, I might play.

19-01-2009, 18:22	#9
Burble Rocket Fuel Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,826	Heh, can't believe I wrote my first reply and didn't say how to clone the drive! You need a bit of software called Copy+.

19-01-2009, 18:35	#10
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Ooh, thanks. If I do as I suggested above, I'll give +Extract a go too. It would be good to have the FTA stuff on my Sky+ disk in original quality (rather than the second generation copy I currently have).