Proud of myself

Dr. Z · 02-10-2006, 20:29

Linux newbie sets up Samba server with all the relevant permissions and then uses iptables to set up a NAT router.

I also had to overcome some bloody stupid errors with my DLink DGE-530T gigabit NIC.

Not used Linux properly in 7 years - its come on quite a way.

Next stop, apache and learning PHP!

EDIT: SSH and FTP servers too!

Haly · 02-10-2006, 20:34

Nice one

I'm thinking of trying out a distro of linux again sometime after having a look at Daz's install. My main problem is before I just used to install it then not be able to think of anything to do

Dr. Z · 02-10-2006, 20:41

My housemate uses Linux and after a little bit of setting up can just about do anything on it - including playing CS:S, which is pretty sweet.

He gets 125+ fps, which for what is basically an emulator isnt too bad at all

The only real help I asked him for was which distro to choose too

If you are going back to try it, I have recently poked about with a handful of distros and Ubuntu is fantastic - if you dont like Gnome you can get KUbuntu which comes with KDE. Two window managers but a bit different. Nothing to stop you having both though, you can change which session you boot into at login

Its debian based so to install most common things is fantastically easy. Red Hat(FC4) didnt seem to be as sweet and Gentoo is supposedly much the same.

I personally wont be jumping ship from XP for my main rig for a while but as far as my other boxes are concerned, each one will be going to Linux

Haly · 02-10-2006, 20:45

Yeah ubuntu is what I saw so I reckon I'd go with that

I'd be interested to see what it'd be like for games actually. Not used linux in about 5-6 years so it's come on in leaps and bounds since then.

Dr. Z · 02-10-2006, 20:54

well, nothing seems to want to run natively so you are stuck with emulating games. WINE is the main piece of software for that (runs UT just fine) but my housemate had major issues getting Source to work (although steam runs just fine on it).

He found another program based on wine that listed one of its features as being optimised to run CS:S, which is pretty sweet. Its not free though (which is reasonably uncommon really), so he had to get on BT to get it. Once he had done that though no faffing no nothing it just worked.

If you have a spare HDD knocking about, give it a go and stick with it while you iron out the creases

Google is a ridiculously powerful tool for linux troubleshooting!

Mark · 02-10-2006, 20:55

Gentoo is great for learning Linux because you have to do a lot of stuff yourself (fron guides of course). However, by god do you have to be patient.

Ubuntu/KUbuntu are the easy ways in if you're just going to play about and can't be bothered/don't have the time to learn the innards or spend the time it takes to maintain a system like Gentoo.

Daz · 02-10-2006, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRZ

Its debian based so to install most common things is fantastically easy. Red Hat(FC4) didnt seem to be as sweet and Gentoo is supposedly much the same.

Gentoo is in a class of it's own - an uber distro really only suitable for those who are fairly *nix familiar, or those who want to know how linux works pretty intimately. Portage (the software management system) offers complete customisation of packages, right down to the compile options, as everything (even the kernel and X) is compiled from source.

It's still my distro of choice as a server OS because I like to optimise, but it can be a right hassle as a desktop OS (though my main rig dual boots into it). My laptop dual boots with kubuntu, just for the convenience of debians package management, and the fact I dont want such granular optimisation for checking my email

Played for getting it sorted

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DRZ

He found another program based on wine that listed one of its features as being optimised to run CS:S, which is pretty sweet. Its not free though (which is reasonably uncommon really), so he had to get on BT to get it. Once he had done that though no faffing no nothing it just worked.

That would probably be cedega. And it is good to be fair.

Haly · 02-10-2006, 20:59

Yeah cedega looks good from what I've read about it.

Dr. Z · 02-10-2006, 21:00

All the uni server boxen (that I have to learn to be able to administer on the fly with as high an uptime as possible during a live radio broadcast

) all run Gentoo because it let them strip out as much of the kernel as they could get away with.

emerge is pretty good, apt-get rocks as far as I am concerned though

Daz, yes, it was cedega. Runs pretty sweet

Burble · 02-10-2006, 21:01

Quake 4 has native binaries for what its worth.

My laptop only runs Gentoo (which really is a pain to setup) and my main rig will eventually dual boot Gentoo when I stop slacking and get around to it.

As far as servers go, unless they have to run Windows then they run Linux. The favoured distro at work is SLES 9 (for the meantime until SLES 10 gets sorted) mainly because it's realitvely easy to setup for the rest of the guys who aren't geeky enough to run Gentoo like I do.

02-10-2006, 20:29	#1
Dr. Z I'm going for a scuttle... Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,021	Proud of myself Linux newbie sets up Samba server with all the relevant permissions and then uses iptables to set up a NAT router. I also had to overcome some bloody stupid errors with my DLink DGE-530T gigabit NIC. Not used Linux properly in 7 years - its come on quite a way. Next stop, apache and learning PHP! EDIT: SSH and FTP servers too! __________________ Last edited by Dr. Z; 02-10-2006 at 20:31.

02-10-2006, 20:34	#2
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	Nice one I'm thinking of trying out a distro of linux again sometime after having a look at Daz's install. My main problem is before I just used to install it then not be able to think of anything to do __________________ Halycopter

02-10-2006, 20:41	#3
Dr. Z I'm going for a scuttle... Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,021	My housemate uses Linux and after a little bit of setting up can just about do anything on it - including playing CS:S, which is pretty sweet. He gets 125+ fps, which for what is basically an emulator isnt too bad at all The only real help I asked him for was which distro to choose too If you are going back to try it, I have recently poked about with a handful of distros and Ubuntu is fantastic - if you dont like Gnome you can get KUbuntu which comes with KDE. Two window managers but a bit different. Nothing to stop you having both though, you can change which session you boot into at login Its debian based so to install most common things is fantastically easy. Red Hat(FC4) didnt seem to be as sweet and Gentoo is supposedly much the same. I personally wont be jumping ship from XP for my main rig for a while but as far as my other boxes are concerned, each one will be going to Linux __________________

02-10-2006, 20:45	#4
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	Yeah ubuntu is what I saw so I reckon I'd go with that I'd be interested to see what it'd be like for games actually. Not used linux in about 5-6 years so it's come on in leaps and bounds since then. __________________ Halycopter

02-10-2006, 20:54	#5
Dr. Z I'm going for a scuttle... Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,021	well, nothing seems to want to run natively so you are stuck with emulating games. WINE is the main piece of software for that (runs UT just fine) but my housemate had major issues getting Source to work (although steam runs just fine on it). He found another program based on wine that listed one of its features as being optimised to run CS:S, which is pretty sweet. Its not free though (which is reasonably uncommon really), so he had to get on BT to get it. Once he had done that though no faffing no nothing it just worked. If you have a spare HDD knocking about, give it a go and stick with it while you iron out the creases Google is a ridiculously powerful tool for linux troubleshooting! __________________

02-10-2006, 20:55	#6
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Gentoo is great for learning Linux because you have to do a lot of stuff yourself (fron guides of course). However, by god do you have to be patient. Ubuntu/KUbuntu are the easy ways in if you're just going to play about and can't be bothered/don't have the time to learn the innards or spend the time it takes to maintain a system like Gentoo.

02-10-2006, 20:59	#8
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	Yeah cedega looks good from what I've read about it. __________________ Halycopter

02-10-2006, 21:00	#9
Dr. Z I'm going for a scuttle... Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,021	All the uni server boxen (that I have to learn to be able to administer on the fly with as high an uptime as possible during a live radio broadcast ) all run Gentoo because it let them strip out as much of the kernel as they could get away with. emerge is pretty good, apt-get rocks as far as I am concerned though Daz, yes, it was cedega. Runs pretty sweet __________________

02-10-2006, 21:01	#10
Burble Rocket Fuel Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,826	Quake 4 has native binaries for what its worth. My laptop only runs Gentoo (which really is a pain to setup) and my main rig will eventually dual boot Gentoo when I stop slacking and get around to it. As far as servers go, unless they have to run Windows then they run Linux. The favoured distro at work is SLES 9 (for the meantime until SLES 10 gets sorted) mainly because it's realitvely easy to setup for the rest of the guys who aren't geeky enough to run Gentoo like I do.

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