So..... running

lostkat · 19-06-2008, 19:48

I need a little advice on running. I've been reading an article that says that in order to do jogging as part of aerobic exercise (and hence fat loss) you should be able to maintain a conversation whilst jogging..... and I can't. No WAY can I talk to someone whilst jogging along. It gets me even more out of breath.

Do I need to slow down in order to get the best out of my jogging? It just doesn't seem right to cut down the effort for a bigger benefit. I know all the theory behind anaerobic and aerobic exercise because I've got a bloody biology degree.... but it still doesn't make sense that it's more effective to slow down.

Help..????

Also, how do you pace yourselves? I'm no good at pacing when I'm not on a treadmill and tend to go too fast and run out of steam easily. I'd like to be able to run for an hour without stopping.

SidewinderINC · 19-06-2008, 20:32

*subscribes to thread*

Slowing the pace (however you do it! I can't do it either

) you're cutting down the effort in the short term, but it's a cumulative thing. say putting in 50% of the effort for twice the amount of time *should* even out when jogging, or be better for you as the heart rate is raised for a longer period.

However, I can't pace myself for shizzle - I find music is one of the best things to pace yourself to, but I listen to quite fast music

BBx · 19-06-2008, 20:34

Is that true? You should be able to maintain a conversation while jogging?! Sod that! I can barely maintain my breathing

After my 3wk holiday and no running at all, I'm finding it extremely hard to get back to my fitness levels before I went away. I can barely run 12mins at 11kph on the treadmill and feel really unfit

The way I did it last time was increasing my target mins 10/15/20/15 or kms: 2/3/4/5 I don't tend to set the targets until I have started running on the treadmill and 'surprise' myself by pushing a bit more. Initally it was about stamina and being able to actually run for 30mins (never mind the pace - I started 'running' on 8/9kph) then it was how fast I could do 1km comfortably, then how long far I could run at that pace.

As for pacing, I'm not sure how to explain, but I run a 15min route after work, I try not to stop (unfortunately you have to otherwise you get run over

) but the home stretch is a hill and of course I'll go slower then.

I just take it easy and the more you do it the better you get at it, also program in some Prodigy tracks.. it makes all the difference - I ran tonight for the first time in the last couple of weeks with music and it deffo motivates you more.

Running sucks arse though... hate it, but for fat loss you are right Kate its the best thing!

Dunno if I've helped at all :/

BB x

Piggymon · 19-06-2008, 21:37

I started off just popping on the treadmill, setting the speed at 7 and jog for 5K.. slowly build yourself up and you'll soon get into it

I found it easier to start on the treadmill as I found I could pace myself better.

I also found the first 10 mins are HORRIBLE ! ... then you get your breathing into a pattern and it becomes more comfortable

BBx · 19-06-2008, 21:41

Phew! Glad I'm not the only one!

BB x

lostkat · 19-06-2008, 22:41

Thanks guys. I don't have any problem running for 20 mins on the treadmill at 9.5km, but I just couldn't hold a conversation with anyone, or even utter one or two words really. Does it matter?? Am I still getting my aerobic exercise, or am I just in anaerobic phase?

I've got a gym soundtrack which I run to in the gym, so I'll just take that with me when I go jogging outside. I don't think I've done it before because my old MP3 player wouldn't clip to my sleeve or anything.

SidewinderINC · 19-06-2008, 22:52

what is the reason for not being able to speak or even utter two words?

LeperousDust · 20-06-2008, 01:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by SidewinderINC

what is the reason for not being able to speak or even utter two words?

Its a way of testing how much you're pushing yourself.

lostkat · 20-06-2008, 06:03

Because I'm concentrating on breathing. If I start talking, I'll lose my breathing rhythm and then I get out of breath and it all goes to pot. I feel quite comfortable but I just couldn't hold a conversation whilst running along.

lostkat · 20-06-2008, 06:17

Right, here's a quote off a random jogging site:

Quote:

Originally Posted by random jogging site

Marathon runners do not sprint the entire race, and joggers should not overestimate their pace. Experienced joggers typically have a faster pace, but the optimal speed is different for everyone based on their stride, endurance, and comfort level. Conversation is the key: a good jogging pace is one where you can hold a conversation while in motion. If you could sing without being out of breath, the pace is too slow, but if you cannot speak a complete sentence without gasping, the pace is too quick. Varying the pace with periodic sprints helps increase endurance, but a constant pace is an effective and efficient workout.

Looks like I do need to slow down then. It doesn't feel very comfortable to run at a slower pace, but if it does me more good, then I need to try and master it.

19-06-2008, 19:48	#1
lostkat Good Cat Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,550	So..... running I need a little advice on running. I've been reading an article that says that in order to do jogging as part of aerobic exercise (and hence fat loss) you should be able to maintain a conversation whilst jogging..... and I can't. No WAY can I talk to someone whilst jogging along. It gets me even more out of breath. Do I need to slow down in order to get the best out of my jogging? It just doesn't seem right to cut down the effort for a bigger benefit. I know all the theory behind anaerobic and aerobic exercise because I've got a bloody biology degree.... but it still doesn't make sense that it's more effective to slow down. Help..???? Also, how do you pace yourselves? I'm no good at pacing when I'm not on a treadmill and tend to go too fast and run out of steam easily. I'd like to be able to run for an hour without stopping. __________________ Oooooh Cecil, what have you done?

19-06-2008, 20:32	#2
SidewinderINC Joey Tempest Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gravesend. Posts: 2,751	subscribes to thread Slowing the pace (however you do it! I can't do it either ) you're cutting down the effort in the short term, but it's a cumulative thing. say putting in 50% of the effort for twice the amount of time should even out when jogging, or be better for you as the heart rate is raised for a longer period. However, I can't pace myself for shizzle - I find music is one of the best things to pace yourself to, but I listen to quite fast music __________________ No Sig.

19-06-2008, 21:37	#4
Piggymon Lara Croft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: PigmoPad - Braintree Essex Posts: 8,604	I started off just popping on the treadmill, setting the speed at 7 and jog for 5K.. slowly build yourself up and you'll soon get into it I found it easier to start on the treadmill as I found I could pace myself better. I also found the first 10 mins are HORRIBLE ! ... then you get your breathing into a pattern and it becomes more comfortable __________________ BF% 28/08/08 - 21%

19-06-2008, 21:41	#5
BBx Reverse SuBo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 8,673	Phew! Glad I'm not the only one! BB x Last edited by BBx; 19-06-2008 at 22:57.

19-06-2008, 22:41	#6
lostkat Good Cat Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,550	Thanks guys. I don't have any problem running for 20 mins on the treadmill at 9.5km, but I just couldn't hold a conversation with anyone, or even utter one or two words really. Does it matter?? Am I still getting my aerobic exercise, or am I just in anaerobic phase? I've got a gym soundtrack which I run to in the gym, so I'll just take that with me when I go jogging outside. I don't think I've done it before because my old MP3 player wouldn't clip to my sleeve or anything. __________________ Oooooh Cecil, what have you done?

19-06-2008, 20:34	#3
BBx Reverse SuBo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 8,673	Is that true? You should be able to maintain a conversation while jogging?! Sod that! I can barely maintain my breathing After my 3wk holiday and no running at all, I'm finding it extremely hard to get back to my fitness levels before I went away. I can barely run 12mins at 11kph on the treadmill and feel really unfit The way I did it last time was increasing my target mins 10/15/20/15 or kms: 2/3/4/5 I don't tend to set the targets until I have started running on the treadmill and 'surprise' myself by pushing a bit more. Initally it was about stamina and being able to actually run for 30mins (never mind the pace - I started 'running' on 8/9kph) then it was how fast I could do 1km comfortably, then how long far I could run at that pace. As for pacing, I'm not sure how to explain, but I run a 15min route after work, I try not to stop (unfortunately you have to otherwise you get run over ) but the home stretch is a hill and of course I'll go slower then. I just take it easy and the more you do it the better you get at it, also program in some Prodigy tracks.. it makes all the difference - I ran tonight for the first time in the last couple of weeks with music and it deffo motivates you more. Running sucks arse though... hate it, but for fat loss you are right Kate its the best thing! Dunno if I've helped at all :/ BB x

19-06-2008, 22:52	#7
SidewinderINC Joey Tempest Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gravesend. Posts: 2,751	what is the reason for not being able to speak or even utter two words? __________________ No Sig.

20-06-2008, 06:03	#9
lostkat Good Cat Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,550	Because I'm concentrating on breathing. If I start talking, I'll lose my breathing rhythm and then I get out of breath and it all goes to pot. I feel quite comfortable but I just couldn't hold a conversation whilst running along. __________________ Oooooh Cecil, what have you done?

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