NFTS HDD Security Problems

[Tysonator]

Hi, It been a while noew since I built lovely new PC, Q6600, P182 Case, ASUS MoBo etc.
problem is that I did not realise I had had to set my Folders on my now old HDD to shared all users. So when I connect to my new PC to copy the files off I now can not do so. As the User name is now not the same, so I can not access all my files.

I got sent this list of instructions to help,

# In Windows Explorer window, locate the files or folders that you want to take ownership and grant access permissions.
# Right click on the file or directory.
# Click on “Properties” on the right click menu.
# Click on “Security” tab.
# Click on “Advanced” button at the bottom.
# In Advanced Security Settings dialog window, click on “Owner” tab.
# Here you will be able to see current owner (i.e. TrustedInstaller).
# To take ownership of the object, click on the Edit button. Give permission to UAC. Then highlight the user name in the “Change owner to” box that you want to assign as the owner for the object. Click “OK” to finish the process.
# Back in Advanced Security Settings window, you will see the current owner has changed to the user you just selected.
# Click “OK” button to exit this window.
# Click “OK” again to exit completely from the Properties window.
# Repeat step 1 to 4 to open the object’s Properties window again.
# Back in object’s Properties window, click on Edit button, and confirm the UAC elevation request.

However,..this has only had limited success. At present I can seem to cut and paste off this old HDD as the user name in the folder seems to keep defaulting back to my old PC user name, thus preventing me from clearing down my files from this old HDD.

My prevoius PC was a socket A XP3000+ CPU and a ASUS MoBo A7N8X-E vr 2.0

So do I need to fine another same MoBo and attache my old HDD ( which contains the C Drive and thus the XP Pro OS ) and boot from that drive into windows and then amend the folders to all users ?

As present I have run out off ideas ! ! ! !

Many thanks

[LeperousDust]

I don't know exactly what you're doing, but it really is as simple (i say simple its a little bit roundabout in windows) as taking ownership of your files. Which in itself has always seem to make a mockery of the ntfs file system security, but i don't confess to know exactly how things work really.

Anyway, yeah, google taking ownership, and follow that.

[Admiral Huddy]

Accesing a different user within Vista shouldn't make any difference as it should prompt for access. I do this all the time as my workshop PC is XP and home is Vista. The XP machine has a different user name than the home but I am able to access / transfer files as long as they are shared. I set your permissions back to default and try again.

However, I did have a problem with drive mappings. Have you mapped the drive to you old PC?

If so, Vista has a problem with mapped XP network drives!!

The problem relates to the new Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder, which basically displays diagrams or GUI of the network drive mappings, connection status and troubleshooting etc. This software requires the LLTD protocol which isn't part of Windows XP and therefore, the two systems can't communicate.

Install this on your XP machine - Link Layer Topology Discovery Responder (KB922120)

Failing that, have you tried attaching the HDD directly to your new machine via SATA interface? I have a HDD USB caddy you can borrow.

[Tysonator]

Hi Admiral,

I have installed the said HDD on my Vista PC and can not get into the folders. I have HD Caddy and have tried via the PC USB to the caddy and the sme problem occurs when trying to access the files.
Plus I do not have a XP PC any more, I have sold the lot ! ! ! !

[Daz]

Run a command prompt as administrator, and run:

takeown /R /F <name_of_locked_dir>

You should see a load of:

SUCCESS: The file (or folder): "D:\foo\bar" now owned by user "Daz".

Now run:

cacls <name_of_locked_dir> /T /E /G everyone:F

Which will give you loads of:

processed file: D:\foo\bar

During the first command it may prompt:

You do not have permissions to read the contents of directory "D:\foo\bar".
Do you want to replace the directory permissions with permissions granting you
full control ("Y" for YES, "N" for NO or "C" to CANCEL)?

In which case say 'Y', and you can skip the second step.

[LeperousDust]

Jesus Daz that easier than the GUI method, its all over the shop when trying to do that a loads of files on a old hardrive.... I'll have to keep that in mind

[Burble]

Proof that us command line monkeys are right to keep using it

[Mark]

Once you've learned the correct commands, that is (I knew of their existance but not how to use them).

[LeperousDust]

Oh i'm aware once the command line is learned properly its powerful stuff definitely. I just have no reason to interact often enough to remember things Also they have slightly less impact than those within a unix environment too.

[Admiral Huddy]

I'm not familiar with these commands.. Any reference?