Pro evo ps3....who is in?

ElRazur · 13-10-2008, 13:52

I am awaiting my copy....with excitement. It appears a few people have received theirs already.

Seeing that the review is good and apparently it is what 2008 version should have been and with fifa apparently gaining grounds as well, I suppose it will be a good year for footy fan this year.

Anyway, who is getting one specifically for the ps3 and what are your views on the demo?

Davey_Pitch · 13-10-2008, 13:56

I tried the demo on the 360 and didn't like it at all. It's gone far too far from the simulation game it used to be, and I much prefer Fifa now. It's different strokes for different folks though, as I think it really boils down to what type of footy game you want. If you prefer it more arcadey, then PES is the game for you. If you want it more realistic, then get Fifa.

NokkonWud · 13-10-2008, 14:01

I've not seen these good reviews, at least not from unbias sources.

I won't be touching it, it was Godawful in the demo, much like Davey said. PES feels like the Arcade games I played in my youth in the way that players run around with the ball always being knocked a pre-defined distance infront of you, the way they hit the ball, the passing, the sounds, the poor presentation, the lack of licenses.

That's without touching online. I said 2008 couldn't be as bad as PES6 and it was, so 2009 could be just as bad.

ElRazur · 13-10-2008, 14:09

Yeah that is what appears to be the online views. To be honest, Konami messed up a lot from last year and their attitude and approach to Pro evo lately is just unbelievable. The lost more license, made the game look halp polished graphically when compared to fifa...etc. They also seem hell bent in moving at a very slow pace in embracing the next gen platform.

It is sad to see that a company that released Metal Gear Solid is struggling in my opinion to release a good footy game for this generation of game machines.

Anyway, I played the demo and I must admit that Fifa looks better and the animation - turning of players - is smoother and no perfect 45degress turn. However, I still refer the game play on pro evo. It is no longer about running at dashing speed with eto or henry to score, or using cut backs to beat people. It is more or less balanced and requires more pre planning and input from the player.

I also noticed that the AI are more intelligent now, I tried doing an over head pass after doing a one two, but they stuck with me and my player I was gonna pass the ball too on a man on man basis. I thought this was a good simulation of what happens in real life and pro some how pulled that particular aspect off well.

All in all, it is still a massive improvement from 2008, but it will be nice to see them build a new engine.

PS: Davey, there is an argument that Pro already did most things and there wasn't much room left for improvement, but fifa had loads of room for improvement and was never up to scratch...hence why it appears fifa may be better or something. Pro apparently is always been good and difficult to improve on....so I read on a site. What do you think?

ElRazur · 13-10-2008, 14:15

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Originally Posted by NokkonWud

I've not seen these good reviews, at least not from unbias sources.

I won't be touching it, it was Godawful in the demo, much like Davey said. PES feels like the Arcade games I played in my youth in the way that players run around with the ball always being knocked a pre-defined distance infront of you, the way they hit the ball, the passing, the sounds, the poor presentation, the lack of licenses.

That's without touching online. I said 2008 couldn't be as bad as PES6 and it was, so 2009 could be just as bad.

The demo, was well a demo. A few people on pesfan [not the best of all sources I know!] already have both copies and they final copy of pro have been tweaked and plays better apparently. Remember last year IGN praised 2008 and it was rubbish? Well, they appear to have played it safe this year and just gave it 8.5 or so iirc. [They have no advert in the game this year]

To play online now, Konami have their own dedicated servers...but registration can be a PITA lol. People who played a few matches on line said while it was better and lag free, there are a few or very minor issues.....

As for this issue, some people have said that the servers are not running fully etc. Also in an interview, Seabass said online was a top priority and it was test from half way around the world. He claimed people with poor internet connection can still manage to play lag free.
Well, that is what he is claiming, but we will all find out in some few days time.

NokkonWud · 13-10-2008, 14:25

It's been a long time since I've played a Demo that wasn't representative of the final product. The early days of the Xbox360.

Davey_Pitch · 13-10-2008, 15:56

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Originally Posted by ElRazur

PS: Davey, there is an argument that Pro already did most things and there wasn't much room left for improvement, but fifa had loads of room for improvement and was never up to scratch...hence why it appears fifa may be better or something. Pro apparently is always been good and difficult to improve on....so I read on a site. What do you think?

I can appreciate that point of view. Pro Evo 5 was an absolute sublime football game and I can partly understand how difficult it can be to improve on games like that. However, in the last few years Fifa has become more popular, and it's not just because Fifa is improving, it's because PES wasn't (if anything, it was going backwards). More and more people started moving towards the more realistic footy on offer with Fifa, and I think that Konami should have spotted that trend a year or two ago and done something about it. They're losing more fans every year by trying to offer minor improvements every year, while Fifa has worked hard to turn its image around become the great football game it always wanted to be. Konami seem to be content doing the same thing every year, and while some fans are happy with that, people like me, former die-hard PES fans, are now turning to Fifa for something different.

Metalface Mark · 13-10-2008, 17:50

360 version for me.

Metalface Mark · 14-10-2008, 09:04

Got the 360 one today, ill give it a go tonight, hopefully lag free online.

ElRazur · 14-10-2008, 13:44

MM what are your thoughts on the game?

13-10-2008, 13:52	#1
ElRazur Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 214	Pro evo ps3....who is in? I am awaiting my copy....with excitement. It appears a few people have received theirs already. Seeing that the review is good and apparently it is what 2008 version should have been and with fifa apparently gaining grounds as well, I suppose it will be a good year for footy fan this year. Anyway, who is getting one specifically for the ps3 and what are your views on the demo? __________________ "Never ignore fools in large numbers."

13-10-2008, 13:56	#2
Davey_Pitch I iz speshul Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 6,296	I tried the demo on the 360 and didn't like it at all. It's gone far too far from the simulation game it used to be, and I much prefer Fifa now. It's different strokes for different folks though, as I think it really boils down to what type of footy game you want. If you prefer it more arcadey, then PES is the game for you. If you want it more realistic, then get Fifa. __________________ Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. It's not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own lights shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

13-10-2008, 14:01	#3
NokkonWud BD Recruitment Officer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Smogville Posts: 3,880	I've not seen these good reviews, at least not from unbias sources. I won't be touching it, it was Godawful in the demo, much like Davey said. PES feels like the Arcade games I played in my youth in the way that players run around with the ball always being knocked a pre-defined distance infront of you, the way they hit the ball, the passing, the sounds, the poor presentation, the lack of licenses. That's without touching online. I said 2008 couldn't be as bad as PES6 and it was, so 2009 could be just as bad. __________________

13-10-2008, 14:09	#4
ElRazur Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 214	Yeah that is what appears to be the online views. To be honest, Konami messed up a lot from last year and their attitude and approach to Pro evo lately is just unbelievable. The lost more license, made the game look halp polished graphically when compared to fifa...etc. They also seem hell bent in moving at a very slow pace in embracing the next gen platform. It is sad to see that a company that released Metal Gear Solid is struggling in my opinion to release a good footy game for this generation of game machines. Anyway, I played the demo and I must admit that Fifa looks better and the animation - turning of players - is smoother and no perfect 45degress turn. However, I still refer the game play on pro evo. It is no longer about running at dashing speed with eto or henry to score, or using cut backs to beat people. It is more or less balanced and requires more pre planning and input from the player. I also noticed that the AI are more intelligent now, I tried doing an over head pass after doing a one two, but they stuck with me and my player I was gonna pass the ball too on a man on man basis. I thought this was a good simulation of what happens in real life and pro some how pulled that particular aspect off well. All in all, it is still a massive improvement from 2008, but it will be nice to see them build a new engine. PS: Davey, there is an argument that Pro already did most things and there wasn't much room left for improvement, but fifa had loads of room for improvement and was never up to scratch...hence why it appears fifa may be better or something. Pro apparently is always been good and difficult to improve on....so I read on a site. What do you think? __________________ "Never ignore fools in large numbers."

13-10-2008, 14:25	#6
NokkonWud BD Recruitment Officer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Smogville Posts: 3,880	It's been a long time since I've played a Demo that wasn't representative of the final product. The early days of the Xbox360. __________________

13-10-2008, 17:50	#8
Metalface Mark Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 240	360 version for me. __________________

14-10-2008, 09:04	#9
Metalface Mark Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 240	Got the 360 one today, ill give it a go tonight, hopefully lag free online. __________________

14-10-2008, 13:44	#10
ElRazur Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 214	MM what are your thoughts on the game? __________________ "Never ignore fools in large numbers."