Theres liberal and theres taking the piss - Page 2

leowyatt · 05-12-2006, 15:43

I'm just lost for words

Fayshun · 05-12-2006, 15:50

Does that mean he'd be eligible for parole after 15 months? Sickening.

Admiral Huddy · 05-12-2006, 15:53

it's more sickening to think there are people defending them

Jasper · 05-12-2006, 16:04

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Originally Posted by Admiral Huddy

it's more sickening to think there are people defending them

although in this case, i agree with you - everyone's entitled to defence. no-one says that these lawyers want to do it when the person they're defending is so obviously guilty, but if you were falsely accused of something equal to this, wouldn't you want defence?

having said that, this kid should've got a life sentence. clearly not manslaughter, and it's just an indication that there's something very very wrong going on in this trial. i wouldn't want to be the person who has to tell that guys kids' that he's dead, and the guy who did it practically got away with it.

mejinks · 05-12-2006, 16:26

I am seriously e-mailing my MP if that will do any good, I suggest you guys do the same.

It is totally shocking. They killer could well be free depending on how much time he has spent on remand. This to me is a clear case of manslaughter though, it wasn't premeditated that the boy was going to kill the guy.

Having said that, manslaughter carries 2 - 10 years, so the judge has given the lightest and most insulting sentence possible. The killer should at least have been given 10 years as that means if he plead guilty, he would be eligable for parole in 5 years.

Matblack · 05-12-2006, 16:42

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Originally Posted by mejinks

I am seriously e-mailing my MP if that will do any good, I suggest you guys do the same.

It is totally shocking. They killer could well be free depending on how much time he has spent on remand. This to me is a clear case of manslaughter though, it wasn't premeditated that the boy was going to kill the guy.

Having said that, manslaughter carries 2 - 10 years, so the judge has given the lightest and most insulting sentence possible. The killer should at least have been given 10 years as that means if he plead guilty, he would be eligable for parole in 5 years.

Good idea

FOR THE ATTENTION OF:

Ann Widdecombe MP
Maidstone and the Weald

Tuesday 5 December 2006
Matt Bannister
1 Scott St
Maidstone
Kent
ME14 2TA

matblack@blueyonder.co.uk
01622 750431

Dear Ms Widdecombe,

I am writing to you to express my absolute disgust at a sentence recently handed down by Cardiff Crown Court. Although I understand this is not you constituency I am sure you will be as disturbed as I am that a sentence as low as two and a half years can be awarded by a UK court for a clear case of man slaughter, with evidence backed up by CCTV footage.

A full account of the article can be found on the BBC website here http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6209626.stm, the victim being one Paul Barnes, 30, from Tremorfa who at the time of being attacked was defending his own property from a gang of vandals.

I would appreciate it if you would consider raising this in parliament as a matter of urgency, I feel strongly that unless street gangs are shown that there are consequences to their actions that they will run roughshod over anyone brave enough to ask them to desist in acts of vandalism.

I appreciate your time is precious and I thank you in advance for any action you can take to raise this issue.

Yours sincerely,

Matt Bannister

Very unusual for something to make me do that, in fact its the first time. If anyone else wants to do it then its easy using http://www.writetothem.com/

MB

mejinks · 05-12-2006, 17:07

Paul Flynn duely mailed.

Matt, you may want to re-read that statement. There is an error in there. You have you instead of your.

Fayshun · 05-12-2006, 17:13

Tony Baldry (Cons. Banbury) mailed too.

mejinks · 05-12-2006, 17:19

Lol, Disgusted of BD writes......

Good on you guys. Im all up for trying to see what makes street gangs do what they do without prejudice, but by saying to them "carry on, we don't know what to do with you" is wrong.

mejinks · 05-12-2006, 20:02

Wow, talk about prompt:

The sentence does seem to be a light one. The matter
is one for the family own MP who I believe is Alun
Michael. I will have a word with him. It might be
better if you dropped a line to him.

Best wishes,

Paul Flynn

Paul Flynn MP House of Commons London SW1A OAA
NEWPORT NEWS: Constituents, please contact me to receive my regular
e-newsletter of news you cannot read anywhere else.

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