iPad - Page 16

petemc · 31-01-2010, 12:25

Mail isn't hugely different. On the whole the UI is very much the same. Its not like the difference between iPhone OS and OSX for example. I don't think the "nice UI" remains to be seen. Its Apple after all. Nice UI is one of their strengths. Core UI is iPhone. Some apps have been upgraded to utilise the bigger screen. iCal looks great. Mail does look better. Like I said, my iPhone now feels small looking at these apps on a 10''ish device. *wants*

Glaucus · 31-01-2010, 12:28

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Originally Posted by petemc

. *wants*

Same but not apple.

I want flash for certain
I want to be able to have a memory card
I want to be able to have multitasking outside of apple apps. Although the above two are far more important than this one.

Android version would probably be ideal.

petemc · 31-01-2010, 12:44

Flash I'm not bothered about. As this guy says theres a chance it'll force people to rethink their Flash sites. HTML5 is going to allow content producers to deliver multimedia content without Flash. It'll play better on OSX and be available for the iPhone/iPad. Its certainly true that Flash on OSX isn't as speedy as on Windows. I remember when I first got a Mac and I'd have to have Safari selected so Flash ran smoothly. If it was a background window it was awful. So if thats the sort of support Adobe are giving to Flash on a Mac I'd rather not have it on my iPhone. HTML5 ftw.

As for a memory card. Not overly fussed. Only thing I really use them for is my cameras and I shoot RAW. I doubt any tablet device would have the processing power I need to handle my images comfortably. That said it would be nice to be able to shoot JPG for fun, import them onto the iPad then process them in the Photoshop mobile app and upload to Flickr. There's a USB camera link so who knows, it might be possible. Of course since this device is aimed at consumers it would be very clever of Apple to allow this. They're all about the family photo album.

Glaucus · 31-01-2010, 12:49

Unfortunately flash is the main stay at the moment and will be for a considerable time.

Memory cards is to store anything on, be it apps, mp3, movies. I don't want to run out of space and have no options. Especially when two of it's main uses is book reading and video. But then I never expected this from apple, Iphone and such have never had expansion slots.

petemc · 31-01-2010, 12:52

It is but the sites I browse aren't heavily Flash enabled and those that are understand the importance of accessible content. They are switching to HTML5. So Flash isn't an issue for me

petemc · 31-01-2010, 14:05

This is the best thought I've read so far.

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It's a bit like the Wii, "real" gamers hate it because the games and console aren't aimed at them but everyone else.

The iPad will make things easier for non-tech types who just want to send email, browse Facebook and enjoy family photos. No virus issues, firewalls, drivers, security patches, right clicking, scary OS stuff to worry about. My Dad really doesn't need the same level of computer that I do.

Mark · 31-01-2010, 14:15

You know what, you're absolutely right. Tech heads hate it because they can't do what they want. Same thing happened with the iPhone - until it was jailbroken.

Of course, the question is then is the price point right for the 'non-tech types'. That's probably where the real problem will lie. It's arguable that a Mac is better for non-tech types too, but Windows won that war a long time ago (OK, so the resistance is strong - ish). Why buy an iPad when you can buy a netbook for considerably less? email? Check. Web? Check. Photos? Check. Facebook? Check.

PS - You fell into your own trap. Non-tech types by definition don't worry about virus issues, firewalls, drivers, or security patches. That's why most of that lot gets turned on by default in Windows 7 - and then Microsoft tell you to go buy anti-virus.

petemc · 31-01-2010, 14:21

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PS - You fell into your own trap. Non-tech types don't worry about virus issues, firewalls, drivers, or security patches.

I know. I said that.

Why buy the iPad over a netbook? Ask again in a year or two when hopefully the print industry is revitalised and offering all manner of newspapers and magazines via the App store. There's great potential in the iPad.

They advertised the iPhone by its features showing how easy it was to use. Thats it. It sold. No crappy marketing showing a well dressed man dancing around with a phone for no reason. Just show people the product and how easy it is. People bought it. I've told my Dad to get an iPad over another Macbook. Think of this. Is it easier to stand in the kitchen holding a netbook in one hand while cooking and trying to google things or simply hold the iPad as you would a cooking magazine or book?

divine · 31-01-2010, 14:25

Which is easier to sit on the side and glance at whilst both hands are dirty from cooking?

petemc · 31-01-2010, 14:27

Like you can't do that with the iPad

31-01-2010, 12:25	#151
petemc Moonshine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nr Liverpewl Posts: 4,371	Mail isn't hugely different. On the whole the UI is very much the same. Its not like the difference between iPhone OS and OSX for example. I don't think the "nice UI" remains to be seen. Its Apple after all. Nice UI is one of their strengths. Core UI is iPhone. Some apps have been upgraded to utilise the bigger screen. iCal looks great. Mail does look better. Like I said, my iPhone now feels small looking at these apps on a 10''ish device. wants __________________ Thats no hamster, its a space station!

31-01-2010, 12:44	#153
petemc Moonshine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nr Liverpewl Posts: 4,371	Flash I'm not bothered about. As this guy says theres a chance it'll force people to rethink their Flash sites. HTML5 is going to allow content producers to deliver multimedia content without Flash. It'll play better on OSX and be available for the iPhone/iPad. Its certainly true that Flash on OSX isn't as speedy as on Windows. I remember when I first got a Mac and I'd have to have Safari selected so Flash ran smoothly. If it was a background window it was awful. So if thats the sort of support Adobe are giving to Flash on a Mac I'd rather not have it on my iPhone. HTML5 ftw. As for a memory card. Not overly fussed. Only thing I really use them for is my cameras and I shoot RAW. I doubt any tablet device would have the processing power I need to handle my images comfortably. That said it would be nice to be able to shoot JPG for fun, import them onto the iPad then process them in the Photoshop mobile app and upload to Flickr. There's a USB camera link so who knows, it might be possible. Of course since this device is aimed at consumers it would be very clever of Apple to allow this. They're all about the family photo album. __________________ Thats no hamster, its a space station!

31-01-2010, 12:49	#154
Glaucus Absinthe Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,855	Unfortunately flash is the main stay at the moment and will be for a considerable time. Memory cards is to store anything on, be it apps, mp3, movies. I don't want to run out of space and have no options. Especially when two of it's main uses is book reading and video. But then I never expected this from apple, Iphone and such have never had expansion slots. __________________

31-01-2010, 12:52	#155
petemc Moonshine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nr Liverpewl Posts: 4,371	It is but the sites I browse aren't heavily Flash enabled and those that are understand the importance of accessible content. They are switching to HTML5. So Flash isn't an issue for me __________________ Thats no hamster, its a space station!

31-01-2010, 14:15	#157
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	You know what, you're absolutely right. Tech heads hate it because they can't do what they want. Same thing happened with the iPhone - until it was jailbroken. Of course, the question is then is the price point right for the 'non-tech types'. That's probably where the real problem will lie. It's arguable that a Mac is better for non-tech types too, but Windows won that war a long time ago (OK, so the resistance is strong - ish). Why buy an iPad when you can buy a netbook for considerably less? email? Check. Web? Check. Photos? Check. Facebook? Check. PS - You fell into your own trap. Non-tech types by definition don't worry about virus issues, firewalls, drivers, or security patches. That's why most of that lot gets turned on by default in Windows 7 - and then Microsoft tell you to go buy anti-virus. Last edited by Mark; 31-01-2010 at 14:18.

31-01-2010, 14:25	#159
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	Which is easier to sit on the side and glance at whilst both hands are dirty from cooking? __________________

31-01-2010, 14:27	#160
petemc Moonshine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nr Liverpewl Posts: 4,371	Like you can't do that with the iPad __________________ Thats no hamster, its a space station!