Boat Drinks Virtual Election - Page 18

Dymetrie · 07-05-2010, 14:45

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David Cameron says the Tories and Lib Dems can discuss electoral reform, with an all-party committee of inquiry set up to discuss the issue.

And there's the carrot....

Mark · 07-05-2010, 14:46

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Originally Posted by Matblack

Thats because you lost a bucket load of seats when everyone worked out you were evil and they are only just begining to forget about it, it doesn't make you great, it just makes the country forgetful!

MB

Not to mention that there are more constituencies now than there were then - pretty easy to get more seats if there are more on offer.

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Originally Posted by Dymetrie

And there's the carrot....

Gordon offered a bigger carrot - a referendum. They've had plenty of talking shops on PR before. In both cases that leaves the option open for the main parties to campaign against.

Matblack · 07-05-2010, 14:48

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Originally Posted by Dymetrie

And there's the carrot....

Not enough tbqfh

MB

Dymetrie · 07-05-2010, 14:49

I didn't say it was a very good carrot

Mark · 07-05-2010, 14:51

You didn't say the Lib Dems were rabbits either.

Matblack · 07-05-2010, 14:55

Ahhhhhh, the British electoral system.

If a vote was actually worth a vote then the Lib Dems would be in the running, if the Lib Dems were in the running, all the people who want to vote Lib Dem but won't because they 'can't win' might vote Lib Dem in which case the country would be a very different place.

MB

Haly · 07-05-2010, 14:57

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Originally Posted by Matblack

Sith Lord Madleson pretty much offered up Gordon on a plate this morning if there was any chance that he could get the LDs on side.

Here is my list of demands

A referendum on PR
Gordon out
Let Vinnie handle the cash

In exchange we'll support you on the economy, or more accurately you'll support Vinnie, we'll back off the Euro (we were only joking anyway), we'll tone down the Trident thing but we still want real debate on it and we'll back you on nuclear power.

And we want Cameron deported.

Sounds workable

MB

Yes please!

Mark · 07-05-2010, 15:01

Have to say I really don't agree with all this 'if only...' talk. It smells of sour grapes, tbh. The system is certainly flawed - but we've got what we've got and have to deal with it.

Ironically, this situation is a good test of whether PR would work here. If we can't make this parliament work, then perhaps we don't want a system that would inevitably lead to more of them.

Matblack · 07-05-2010, 15:06

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Originally Posted by Mark

Have to say I really don't agree with all this 'if only...' talk. It smells of sour grapes, tbh. The system is certainly flawed - but we've got what we've got and have to deal with it.

Ironically, this situation is a good test of whether PR would work here. If we can't make this parliament work, then perhaps we don't want a system that would inevitably lead to more of them.

So it's OK that a party who get 6.1% more of the vote get 5x as many seats? That's not sour grapes, it's common sense, its also an issue which member of all three parties main are raising.

I wasn't expecting the LDs to win, if you think I'm upset because they haven't then you are sorely mistaken.

MB

Chuckles · 07-05-2010, 15:13

I'm upset because they might do a deal with the Tories.

Don't do it Nick! I'm going back to Labour first the first time since 1997 if they do. It would be a complete sacrifice on principles.

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Conservatives	13	19.70%
Labour	8	12.12%
Lib Dem	35	53.03%
Other	1	1.52%
Plaid	1	1.52%
SNP	0	0%
I'm not voting	6	9.09%
Someone else	2	3.03%
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07-05-2010, 14:49	#174
Dymetrie A large glass of Merlot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Letchworth with a Lightsaber Posts: 5,819	I didn't say it was a very good carrot __________________ Khef, Ka and Ka-Tet....

07-05-2010, 14:55	#176
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	Ahhhhhh, the British electoral system. If a vote was actually worth a vote then the Lib Dems would be in the running, if the Lib Dems were in the running, all the people who want to vote Lib Dem but won't because they 'can't win' might vote Lib Dem in which case the country would be a very different place. MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

07-05-2010, 15:13	#180
Chuckles '09 sexual conquests: 4.5 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,075	I'm upset because they might do a deal with the Tories. Don't do it Nick! I'm going back to Labour first the first time since 1997 if they do. It would be a complete sacrifice on principles. __________________

07-05-2010, 14:51	#175
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	You didn't say the Lib Dems were rabbits either.

07-05-2010, 15:01	#178
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Have to say I really don't agree with all this 'if only...' talk. It smells of sour grapes, tbh. The system is certainly flawed - but we've got what we've got and have to deal with it. Ironically, this situation is a good test of whether PR would work here. If we can't make this parliament work, then perhaps we don't want a system that would inevitably lead to more of them.